HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/11/1990 COW minutes MINUTES
COMMI'I'I'EE OF THE WHOLE
SEPTEMBER 11, 1990
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7.35 p.m. Present at the meeting were:
Mayor Gerald L Farley; Trustees Ralph Arthur, Mark Bnsse, Timothy Corcoran,
George Van Geem and ,Theodore Wattenberg. Absent from th~ meeting was
Trustee Leo Floros. Also present at the meeting were. Village Manager John
Fulton DLxon, Assistant Village Manager John Burg, Planmng and Zoning Director
Dave Clements, Finance Director Dave Jepson, Director of Inspection Ser~ces
Chuck Benclc, Deputy Public Works Director Glen Andler, Chamber of Commerce
Executive Director Janet Hansen; three members of the press and 60 persons in
the audience.
(~ II MINUTES
~- ~-- ~' The Minutes of the Committee of the Whole.m~eting ~f August 28, 1990 were
accepted and filed.
III CITIZENS TO BE HEARD
Mrs. Harmon, of 16 North William Street, complained about the Creative
Children's Academy and the Suzuki Music School which are at the Bnsse School
She d~d not feel these are appropriate uses for the building. She also complained
about the parking situation there. Mayor Farley indicated we have a Legal
Opinion that these two uses are educational orgamzations Also, he noted that
the Safety Commission studied the parking situation at Busse School and made
a recommendation. The recommendations were to be tried for a period of three
months to see if this vall help the situation. He suggested allowing this trial
period to be completed and then have a rewew by the Safety Commission at that
time
.Ion Peterso~ of 1~ North Owen, also questioned the use of Busse School by these
two organizations He asked if the Village has a Legal Op~mon and requested
a copy of the Opinion. ~He also urged the Board and residents to think long and
hard before allovang home occupations.
IV DISCUSSION ON CAMP MCDONALD ROAD JURISDICTIONAL TRANSFER
Village Manager DLxon introduced the discussion concerning the proposed
jur~sdlcnonal transfer of Camp McDonald Road.
Inspection Servmes Director Chuck Bencic presented a drawing with cross-sections
of the improvements suggested by the Village if the Village were to accept the
jurisdictional transfer. He also noted what nelghbonng commumtics had proposed
for their portion of the road
Mayor Farley then opened the discussion to interested residents.
Bill Haasc, of 1815 Camp McDonald Road, said he was not thrilled by the idea
of this improvement. He said that in Mount Prospect, Camp McDonald Road is
residentml unlike the stretches of the road in neighboring commumties. He did
not feel change would be a betterment. There would be additional traffic and
disruption of the neighborhood during construction He wished the whole project
would just d!sa~pp.ear.
Mayor Farley'asked what impact there would be to' the neighborhood if that
section of Camp McDonald Road would not be improved Mr. Haase did not feel
this would cause any problem to the residents in that area.
Mmhele Dore', of 1764 Camp McDonald Road, spoke on behalf of many residents
along the road. She had circulated a petition entitled, "Save our Street." She
asked various questions regarding this project. She felt the County wanted to
improve the road to allow better access for garbage trucks that would go to the
proposed Transfer Station and to provide a better route for the proposed
commuter station at Euclid and Wolf Roads She suggested a five-pmnt program
that would cost less than $1,000. She said.
1 The street should remain a two-lane street.
2 There should be four-way Stop signs at Burning Bush and Columbine
with painted crosswalks.
3. The posted speed hrnit should be dropped to 25 males per hour.
4. There should be more Police patrols especially on Friday and
Saturday nights. ,
5. No heavy-duty trucks should be allowed on the street.
She presented the Mayor w~th a bag of garbage, mostly beer cans which were
thrown on her parkway on Sunday. Ms. Dore' sald there are ~94~houses along
Camp McDonald Road. She talked to all of the people and only two people were
in favor of this improvement. She said these two people wanted to get nd of the
ditch.
Trustee Corcoran tried to clarify the s~tuataon. He said there is no mention of
special assessment. He smd all taxpayers of Cook County will pay for this
proposed improvement. He said the issue is a junsd~ctionai transfer. He said this
is a Cook County street and he is not sure the Village could stop this project if
the County wants to do it.
Ms Dore' sa~d she wants her local elected officials to tell the County they do not
want the three-lane road.
Trustee Arthur also indicated this ~s a County road. He said that Carl Hansen
is a County Commissioner who hves m Mount Prospect. If the residents are
against th~s prolect, they can send letters to Mr. Hansen or to Cook County
Comrmssaoner Dunne He noted that 94~homes translates to approxamately 188
votes and the County Commissioners may be willing to hsten to such a large
votmg block.
Earl Johnson, of 1803 Camp McDonald Road, spoke in favor of the proposed
improvements to Camp McDonald Road.
Patrick Moore, a resident at Camp McDonald and Wolf Roads, said he bought
his home along th~s road because of the residential nature He was against
~mproving and enlarging the street.
Arthur Kuehn, of 1823 Camp McDonald Road, asked what the Village has to gmn
f by this ~mprovement. Mayor Farley indicated the improvements proposed by the
Village would include an extra lane to provide for a turn lane for the area
residents Also, the V~llage requested that the d~tch system be enclosed vath a
storm sewer system. F~nally, th~s improvement would extend the life of the road
~because the Village would request concrete with curb and gutter.
Mr. Kuehn then asked what n would cost to mmntain the road into the future.
Manager Dixon said that during the first ten years, there would be n~inlmal
repmrs and the main cost would be snow and ~ce removal After 20-25 years, it
would reqmre a major reconstruction. He said that under the FAUS Program,
this street would be ehgible to compete for funds to reconstruct the road Under
th~s Program, 70% could possibly be funded by the Federal government, 15% by
the State and 15% would have to be contributed by the Village.
Mr. Bencic ind~cuted in today's dollars, it would cost approximately $150,000 to
resurface this street 25 years from now.
Trustee Wattenberg indicated he sees no reason to do th~s project ~ He said the
voice of the people is the voice of God. ·
Trustee Corcoran said there was a simple reason why the County wants to do this
project. He said the County wants to make a one-time expenditure to improve
the road and then pass on this responsibility to the Village in perpetuity. Trustee
Corcuran also suggested that the residents opposed to this project exercise their
right to express their concerns before the County Board Trustee Corcoran said
he supports the residents, noting he is opposed to the jurisdictional transfer. He
also mentioned that a Public Meeting regarding Citizens' Utilities'vail be held at
the River Trails Junior High School at 7.30 p m, on September 19.
Trustee Arthur also agrees with the residents and is not in favor of this project.
He said he will vote no regarding the jurisdictional transfer.
Trustee Busse also indicated that he does not support the jurisdictional m~asfer
Mayor Farley indicated that there appears to be no support for the jurisdictional
transfer. He said the County vall be notified of this
Ms. Dore' presented the Village with a copy of the petition of residents ~long
Camp McDonald Road opposed to this project
V HOME OCCUPATION LICENSE
Village Manager Dixon introduced the topic of Home Occupations. Janet Hansen,
of the Chamber of Commerce, explained the reasons why she feels a Home
Occupation Ordinance is necessary. Mayor Farley felt such an Ordinance would
be a benefit to the Village.
Trustee Arthur was opposed to this type of Ordinance. He said there would be
more cost to the Village wath additional employees. He said he moved to Mount
Prospect to live m a residential community. He was surprised the Chamber is
supporting this concept because he thought the rebuilding of the downtown area
,was of the greatest importance.
Janet Hansen indicated there are 300 home-based businesses m town right now.
She said many businesses started out this way. She would recommend that the
Ordinance prohibit barber and beauty shops and other problematic businesses.
Trustee Wattenberg was in favor of home occupations. He noted that young
mothers can use a computer in the home. This would allevaate some of the traffic
congestion in the area.
Trustee Busse asked how much additional expense there would be to the Village
to hire the necessary personnel to handle licensing of home occupations. F~nance
Director Jepson indicated the Village uses one-half of a clerk to handle the 1,050
Business Licenses and 1,000 Contractor Licenses currently. He estimated it would
re,quire an additional 2-3 hours per week to handle the 300 home occupauons.
Planning and Zoning Director Dave Clements indicated the Village would have
to use Planmng and Zoning staff time if the Ordinance would require a Special
Use Permit. He recommended against this because the staff time Would be
prohibiuve.~ He suggested this be merely an administrative license which would
not take up much of the staff time. -~ ~
Trustee Busse asked if this kind of arrangement would compete with existing
businesses Janet Hansen said she did not have an accurate estimate, but she did
say these businesses are already going on right now.
Trustee Busse does not want any disturbance to the neighbor~hoods, however, he
agrees with the concept of the Ordinance.
Trustee Corcoran did not agree voth this type of Ordinance. He felt that many
of the people are really doing hobbies in their home rather than a true business
He felt It would be difficult for the Village to decide when a home occupation
becomes a business that must relocate into a building zoned for a business. He
felt the administrative burden would be prohibitive.
Mayor Farley asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak to this issue
Don Harmon, of 16 North William Street, said he was absolutely against home
occupations. He felt that home owners can already use their phone and do typing
at this time. However, he was not in favor of an .Ordinance ~hich would allow
various businesses. He questioned whether the Village can enforce this Ordinance.
He does not want trucks in driveways with people in and out of homes.
Mr. Clements noted that the Vlllag~ staff ~recelves questions regarding the legality
of home occupations. Staff must tell residents home occupations are against the
law. This puts staff m a difficult position because someone down the street is
already doing it ~ He suggested writing perf?rmance standards into the Ordinance.
Trustee Arthur saw no problem in the situation outhned by Mr. Clements He
suggested that the staff tell anyone who inquiries that it is against the law and to
get the name and address of anyone who is breaking the law. Trustee Arthur also
asked Janet Hansen if this Ordinance is recommended by the Chamber Board
Ms. I-I~nsen indicated that the Board ~had asked her to check with the Village
Board to see if there is an interest in this type of Ordinance.
Trustee Van Geem said he generally supports the tdea of a Home Occupation
Ordinance. He would like to see an Ordinance proposed by staff. He is not in
favor of a License Fee. He suggested one of the requirements of the Ordinance
would be that the neighbors cannot perceive there is a business. There should be
no outward signs, no extra cars, no trucks and no inventory. He is thinking in
terms of a computer being operated in the home. ~
Mayor Farley indicated there is support for the staff to prepare'an Ordin~nce.
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VI EMERGENCy WATERMAIN REPAIRS ON ROUTE 83
Village Manager Dixon outlined the problems related to the watermmn repairs on
Route 83 He suggested doing the repair to the 8" section of pipe on the block
from Lonnquist to Sunset and then doing a 6" line replacement as an emergency
repair on the block from Sunset to Golf. He said IEPA is requinng a costly
'repair to the storm sewer line which would be about $55,000-$75,000 He felt thts
would make the cost of the project prohibittve.
Trustee Wattenberg was in favor of the recommendation of the Village Manager
Trustee Van Geem was opposed to circumventing the IEPA. He felt it was good
pubhc policy to hve wathin these regulations He felt the Village should spend the
extra money and do it right.
Trustee Arthur said he was perfectly walling to go on record to oppose this costly
repair He indicated the d~tch is constantly torn up day after day, even today.
Th~ emerge~n~ r. epairs must be done now.
Trustee Busse felt the Village should do it the Fay we are supposed to. He felt
we should do i?,by the,rules. ' ~, ~ ~ ·
Trustee Corcoran made a distinction between the Village and the IEPA. He said
'the Village makes laws and the people can complain and change the laws He
said State Legislature passes a law but then the bureaucrats at the IEPA ~nterpret
these laws He smd they come up w~th ideals but then it is up to the villages to
pay for these ideals. Trustee Corcoran felt that the factor of cost-effecttveness
should come ~nto the equation. He asked if it is really worth $75,000 to do this
Trustee Van Geem smd he would agree to contacting the IEPA to see if there
could b'e a compromise
"Trustee Corcoran noted that the bureaucrats do not respond. Hegave, as an
'~example, the no right hand'turn on red sign requested at Algonquin and Busse.
Manager D~xon noted that we d~d~contact the IEPA but there As no appeal
possible ' ' ~ ,
~ Mayor Farley asked what our liabihty is if we were to proceed. Manager Dixon
~ indicated the mammum fine would be $50,000. He noted, however, that almost
every Court Case has come down on the side of m/micxpality when emergency
repairs are involved, ~ ', ,
Mayor Farley said he was not comfortable to proceed in the second block w~thout
appropriate authority.
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It was the consensus of the Committee to proceed w~th the first block and to
contact a high-level official, perhaps, a Cabinet official to review the request for
Permits for the second block. Manager Dixon said he will see if IDOT will
pamclpate in moving the storm sewer.
VII SALE OF VILLAGE PROPERTY AT 443 RAND ROAD
Mayor Farley suggested that it might be wise for the staff to negotiate to lift the
restrictions on the Real Estate Contracts provided by Mr. Mauro and Mr. Cohen
for the sale of Village-owned properly at 443 Rand Road.
Trustee 'Corcoran made a Motmn to throw out all the b~ds He suggested
requiring on the next btd specs that no contingencies be allowed The Motion
faded for a lack of Second.
Trustee Arthur agreed w~th Trustee Corcoran, noting that the bid process should
start all over agam with no provasos on the Real Estate Contract.
Trustee Van Geem felt the high bid of $50,025 by Francis Cadillac was attractive
He said the Zomng Board would have to make the recommendation as to the
rezoning and the matter would be rewewed by the Board following the Zoning
Board's recommendation.
Trustee Wattenberg felt the Village should go ahead with the sale of this property.
The consensus was to delay a decision on the sale of the property until Trustee
Floros and the full Board were in attendance.
VIII. MANAGER'S REPORT
1. There was a successful Open House held last Saturday at the Pubhc Safety
Building Manager Dixon encouraged anyone to contact the Vdlage for tours.
2. With regard to the Census, Manager D~xon said that the vacant dwelling list
provtded by the Bureau is too high. We are now reviewing th~s list to make
corrections.
IX ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Trustee Wattenberg indicated that he has been trying to move forward w~th the
Court Watching Program which he is developing vath help from volunteers.
Trustee Wattenberg also asked for a written report of the most recent meeting of
the Chiefs of Police wath Judge Geocaris
At 10 05 p m, Trustee Wattenberg moved and seconded by Trustee Corcoran to
convene into Executive Session to discuss litigation Motion carried unammously
At 10.53 p m, the Committee reconvened into regular session. At 10'54 p.m., the
meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully subrmtted,
JOHN P. BURG
JPB/rcw Assistant Village Manager