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CASE NO. PZ -22 -11
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Hearing Date: September 22, 2011
999 N. Elmhurst Road
CLP /SPF Randhurst LLC, c/o Casto Lifestyle Properties
August 10, 2011
Multiple
Amendment to the Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow
Drive - Through Restaurant & Sign Variations
Richard Rogers, Chair
William Beattie
Joseph Donnelly
Jacqueline Hinaber, Alternate
Leo Floros
Theo Foggy
Ronald Roberts
Keith Youngquist
Consuelo Andrade, Development Review Planner
Brian Simmons, Deputy Director of Community Development
Rich Yaras
Chairman Rogers called the meeting to order at 7:31 p.m. Mr. Donnelly made a motion, seconded by Ms.
Hinaber to approve the minutes of the August 25, 2011 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting; the minutes
Nvere approved 3 -0 Nvith Mr. Beattie abstaining. Chairman Rogers introduced Case PZ- 22 -11, 999 N. Elmhurst
Road at 7:32 p.m.
Ms. Andrade said the Petitioner for PZ -22 -11 Nvas seeking approval to amend the Planned Unit Development to
allow a drive - through restaurant at 999 N. Elmhurst Road. This case appeared before the Planning and Zoning
Commission on August 25, 2011, Nvhere it Nvas continued to the September meeting for revisions to the site plan.
Additionally, the Petitioner requested Variations to increase the number of permitted menu boards and increase
the permitted area of a menu board.
Ms. Andrade stated the Petitioner proposed to construct a new outlot building that Nvould include a restaurant Nvith
drive - through lanes and Nvas seeking to modIA- the approved PUD to allow the new drive - through restaurant. The
Petitioner possesses a signed Letter of Intent Nvith Panera Bread that is conditional upon providing a drive - through
for the restaurant.
Ms. Andrade said the Petitioner submitted two (2) site plans for consideration: Site Plan A included a full bypass
lane for the entire length of the drive - through. Combined, the bypass lane and drive - through lane measure twenty
(20) feet in Nvidth along Elmhurst Road. The landscape area measures ten and a half (10.5) feet along Elmhurst
Road.
Ms. Andrade stated Site Plan B included a fourteen (14) foot drive - through lane and sixteen and a half (16.5) feet
landscape area along Elmhurst Road. The bypass lane Nvould be adjacent to the pick -up Nvindow on the south
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building elevation. Both site plans met the Village's requirements for parking lot setback along the Nvest property
line.
Ms. Andrade said the landscape plan for site plan A indicated a mixture of plantings that included shade trees,
ornamental trees, evergreen trees, shrubs, grasses, and ground cover Nvould be provided. The landscaping along
Elmhurst Road included deciduous shrubs, shade trees, and four (4) groupings of six (6) foot tall evergreen trees.
Ms. Andrade stated the landscape plan for site plan B Nvould essentially provide the same type of plantings as in
A, but more of them. Overall, twenty -six (26) more plantings Nvould be provided than in landscape plan A. Along
Elmhurst Road, the plan provided three (3) more extra evergreen shrubs and four (4) more extra deciduous shrubs
than in landscape A.
Ms. Andrade said per the Petitioner's elevation draNvings, the building Nvould be constructed out of brick veneer
and Nvould include avmings and metal canopies. She shoNved a slide that illustrated the proposed east building
elevation which Nvould be the front of the building. There Nvas another image that represented the Nvest building
elevation which Nvould front Elmhurst Avenue. The Petitioner shall continue to Nvork Nvith Staff to refine the
architecture of the building.
Ms. Andrade stated the north and south building elevations Nvould match the style and building material as in the
front facade. The building Nvould measure twenty -eight (28) feet in height.
Ms. Andrade said the Petitioner proposed to install N,-o (2) menu boards for the drive - through lane when the Sign
Code permits only one (1) menu board for a drive - through restaurant. The sign package illustrated a principal
menu board that Nvould display Pancra's complete menu and a preview board that Nvould display specific
breakfast, lunch, and drink items.
Ms. Andrade referenced the folloNving table:
The table compared the Village sign regulations Nvith the proposed signs. As proposed, the principal menu board
measured approximately thirty -five (35) square feet when the Sign Code limits the area to thirty -N,-o (32) square
feet. Combined the two (2) signs Nvould provide approximately fifth -five (55) square feet of sign area. The
Petitioner Nvas seeking Variations to allow two (2) menu boards and increase the sign area for the principal menu
board.
Ms. Andrade stated the required findings for sign variations are contained in Section 7.725 of the Village of
Mount Prospect Sign Code. The section contains specific findings that must be made in order to approve a
variation which include:
a hardship created by unique circumstances and not serving as a convenience to the petitioner,
The variation not being materially detrimental to the public Nvelfare or injurious to other property or
improvements in the neighborhood; and
The variation not impairing visibility to the adjacent property, increasing the danger of traffic problems or
endangering the public safety
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Village Sign Cade
l e ulations for Menu
Principal
Menu Board
Preview:
Menu Board
Number
Max. 1
1
I
Area
Max. 32 sq.ft.
31.96 sgft.
21.99 sq.ft.
Height
Max. 8 ft.
5.91 ft.
5.66 ft.
The table compared the Village sign regulations Nvith the proposed signs. As proposed, the principal menu board
measured approximately thirty -five (35) square feet when the Sign Code limits the area to thirty -N,-o (32) square
feet. Combined the two (2) signs Nvould provide approximately fifth -five (55) square feet of sign area. The
Petitioner Nvas seeking Variations to allow two (2) menu boards and increase the sign area for the principal menu
board.
Ms. Andrade stated the required findings for sign variations are contained in Section 7.725 of the Village of
Mount Prospect Sign Code. The section contains specific findings that must be made in order to approve a
variation which include:
a hardship created by unique circumstances and not serving as a convenience to the petitioner,
The variation not being materially detrimental to the public Nvelfare or injurious to other property or
improvements in the neighborhood; and
The variation not impairing visibility to the adjacent property, increasing the danger of traffic problems or
endangering the public safety
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Ms. Andrade said per the Petitioner, the second menu board Nvas needed to better facilitate the drive - through
queuing. The Panera drive - through concept is new to the area, and the preview menu board Nvould help speed the
drive - through service. The Petitioner also noted that the increase in the alloNvable square footage for the principal
menu board Nvas needed to allow the installation of the typical thirty -five (35) square foot menu board, Nvhich
includes the complete menu. Pancra's complete menu is available all day, and Panera does not rotate the menu
sign panels throughout the day.
Ms. Andrade stated Staff can appreciate the Petitioner's desire to install a preview board to facilitate drive -
through queuing; it does not constitute a hardship and Nvould serve as a convenience to the Petitioner. The
development's characteristic of one (1) drive - through lane is not unique and does not Nvarrant an additional menu
board. Other fast -food restaurants Nvith one (1) drive - through lane in the Village currently operate Nvith one menu
board. The Petitioner's request to increase the area of the principal menu board Nvould also serve as a
convenience as the proposed sign is Pancra's typical menu board currently used in other locations. The alloNvable
signage, including Nvall signs, a menu board, and directional signs, for Panera Nvould reasonably identiA- the
business.
Ms. Andrade said based on Staff's review of the Petitioner's request to amend the Planned Unit Development to
allow a drive - through restaurant, Staff recommended approval of an Amendment to the Planned Unit
Development granted in Ordinance No. 5705 for Randhurst Village to allow a drive - through restaurant along
Elmhurst Road, subject to the conditions listed in the Staff Report. The Village Board's decision for this request
is final.
Ms. Andrade stated based on Staff's review of the proposed signs, Staff recommended that the Planning & Zoning
Commission deny the Variation requests to increase the number of menu boards and to increase the area of the
principal menu board. The Planning and Zoning Commission's decision for the sign requests are final.
Chairman Rogers confirmed Nvith Staff that Plan A and Plan B of the proposed drive - through Nvere up for
discussion. Ms. Andrade stated that the Planning and Zoning Commission could make a recommendation on
either plan Nvith modifications. Mr. Simmons said Staff Nvould recommend Plan B to the Commission.
Mr. Beattie asked if there Nvere anv other drive - throughs in the Village that had more than one (1) menu board.
Ms. Andrade responded she Nvas not aNvare of anv other drive - through in the Village Nvith multiple menu boards,
and if they do exist they are considered non - conforming. Chairman Rogers added that they had not approved
more than one (1) menu board. There Nvas discussion about the possibility of other drive - throughs having non-
conforming preview boards.
Chairman Rogers swore in Rich Yaras of Casto, 55 E. Euclid Avenue, Mount Prospect, Illinois. Mr. Yaras
discussed both plans that Nvere presented to the Commission. He preferred the option (Plan A) Nvith the bypass
lane to address the Commission's concerns regarding Nvait times He mentioned that he Nvould continue to Nvork
Nvith Staff regarding landscaping if need be.
There Nvas additional discussion regarding the need and purpose of the bypass lane
Mr. DonnelIv asked if there Nvas consideration to place the menu board along the north side of the proposed
building. Mr. Yaras said by placing the menu board on the north side Nvould affect the drive - through queuing and
the parking lot traffic.
There Nvas additional discussion regarding the parking lot layout.
Mr. Donnelly preferred that the menu board not face the street and the neighbors across the Nvay. Mr. Yaras stated
that the signs Nvould be on a thirty (30) degree angle and the neighbors' properties across the Nvav are heavilN
Nvooded. Mr. Donnelly compared the Subject Case to the drive - through at Wolf and Euclid Roads.
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There Nvas discussion regarding the four (4) handicap spaces on the north side of the proposed building. Mr.
Donnelly Nvanted to see the north side of the property dedicated to the drive - through only. Ms. Hinaber thought
the handicap spaces Nvould create issues Nvith the drive - through traffic. Mr. Yaras said that he could look at
placing the handicap spaces on the east side of the proposed building, but it Nvas not preferred.
There Nvas discussion regarding the traffic flow on site and the preview board.
Mr. Donnelly stated that he did not see changes made from the last meeting. Mr. Yaras said the biggest concerns
Nvere Nvith Nvait times and the lack of a double bypass lane. He stated Plan A alloNvs for the bypass lane
throughout the drive - through and it maximizes the landscaping. Mr. Yaras stated the drive - through lane has been
shifted as close to the building as possible.
Mr. Yaras discussed the proposed timeline schedule for the project.
Mr. Donnelly asked whN- there Nvere different sizes listed for the preview board. Ms. Andrade stated that the
Petitioner may have calculated the area incorrectIv. She said Staff calculates the square footage of the sign by
boxing in the area that includes either the logo, business name, or items. Mr. Yaras confirmed that Pancra's logo
Nvas not included Nvith his calculations of the area.
Mr. Donnelly asked the Petitioner what hardships necessitate the preview board. Mr. Yaras said the preview sign
Nvould reduce Nvait times as Panera is not a typical fast food restaurant. He discussed the variety of items that the
restaurant serves.
There Nvas general discussion Nvhether or not the preview sign Nvould decrease Nvait times at the drive - through.
Chairman Rogers did not see a need for t�vo (2) menu boards. He stated that the compromise could be one (1)
menu board at thirty -five (35) square feet. This Nvould be three (3) feet above Nvhat the Code allows. Chairman
Rogers asked if the six (6) foot tall evergreens could be eight (8) feet tall; to ensure that the menu board is
covered. Mr. Yaras had no objections to installing eight (8) foot tall evergreens to cover the menu board.
Chairman Rogers discussed the N,-o (2) drive - through options. He preferred the building and drive - through traffic
to be located further avmy from Elmhurst Road. He asked the Petitioner if there Nvas going to be a berm along
Elmhurst Road. Mr. Yaras said there Nvould be a berm only a couple of feet high.
Mr. Yaras believed that if there Nvas not going to be a bypass lane, then the preview board Nvas Nvarranted. Mr.
Beattie stated that he did not understand how a preview board one (1) car length avmy from the menu board
Nvould reduce Nvait times.
There Nvas discussion regarding other Panera restaurants Nvith drive - throughs and their Nvait times.
Mr. Donnellv stated that if the Panera logo Nvas removed from the menu board and replaced Nvith menu items; this
could allow the menu board to meet the Village Code. Mr. Yaras stated that the menu board is Pancra's prototype
and he did not know if the logo Nvas removed how it Nvould affect them.
There Nvas discussion regarding lighting along the drive - through and Nvest side of the Subject Property.
Mr. Yaras shoNved pictures of another Panera drive - through to illustrate how the preview and menu boards Nvould
look.
There Nvas additional discussion regarding the drive - through, outdoor seating, preview board, and lighting.
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Mr. DonnelIv asked Staff if the drive - through queuing requirements Nyere based on how fast a restaurant is able to
make food. Mr. Simmons said there are minimum requirements based on the number of stacking spaces alloNyed
for a drive - through. The number is based on numerous traffic studies of fast food restaurants nationNyide. Mr.
Simmons stated there are no requirements based on hoNy fast a restaurant turns around food. Chairman Rogers
confirmed Nyith Staff that the Village requires eight (8) stacking spaces for a drive - through restaurant.
Chairman Rogers asked if there Nyas anyone else in the audience to address this case. Hearing none, he closed the
public portion of the case at 8:17 p.m. and brought the discussion back to the board.
Mr. DonnelIv made a motion, seconded by Mr. Beattie to approve a Variation request to increase the number of
menu boards from one (1) to tNyo (2).
UPON ROLL CALL: AYES: None
NAYS: Beattie, Donnelly, Hinaber, Rogers
Motion Nyas denied 4 -0. The Planning and Zoning Commission's decision Nyas final for this motion.
Mr. Beattie made a motion, seconded by Mr. Donnelly to approve a Variation request to increase the area of the
principal menu board from thirty- -tvyo (32) square feet to thirty -five (35) square feet.
UPON ROLL CALL: AYES: Beattie, Hinaber, Rogers
NAYS: Donnelly
Motion Nyas approved 3 -1. The Planning and Zoning Commission's decision Nyas final for this motion.
There Nyas discussion regarding the drive - through lane. Mr. Donnelly asked if the drive - through lane could be
less than fourteen (14) feet. Chairman Rogers stated that the lane could be reduced to twelve (12) feet. Mr.
Simmons said that the Village's Engineering Division revieNyed the proposed drive - through and recommended the
lane being at least fourteen (14) feet. Chairman Rogers asked the Petitioner if he could live Nyith tvyelve (12) feet
instead of fourteen (14) feet. Mr. Yaras stated that he Nyould defer to Engineering's comments and keep it at
fourteen (14) feet.
Mr. Beattie made a motion, seconded by Mr. Beattie to approve an amendment to the Planned Unit Development
granted in Ordinance No. 5705 for Randhurst Village to alloy a drive - through restaurant along Elmhurst Road, as
illustrated on Site Plan B as prepared by Woolpert, dated August 2011, subject to the conditions of approval as
listed in the staff report.
UPON ROLL CALL: AYES: Beattie, Donnelly, Hinaber, Rogers
NAYS: None
Motion Nyas approved 4 -0. The Village Board's decision is final for this motion.
After hearing one (1) additional case, Mr. Donnelly made a motion, seconded by Mr. Roberts to adjourn at 8:28
p.m. The motion Nyas approved by a voice vote and the meeting Nyas adjourned.
Rvan Kast, Community Development
Administrative Assistant
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