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CASE NO. PZ -22 -11
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Hearing Date: August 25, 2011
999 N. Elmhurst Road
CLP /SPF Randhurst LLC, c/o Casto Lifestyle Properties
August 10, 2011
Multiple
Amendment to the Planned Unit Development to allow Drive -
Through Restaurant
Richard Rogers, Chair
Joseph Donnelly
Leo Floros
Ronald Roberts
Keith Youngquist
Jacqueline Hinaber, Alternate
William Beattie
Theo Foggy
Consuelo Andrade, Development Review Planner
Brian Simmons, Deputy Director of Community Development
Rich Yaras, Peter Bizoukas, Rachel Turner- Lauck, Jim Conrov
Chairman Rogers called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Mr. DonnelIv made a motion, seconded by Mr.
Youngquist to approve the minutes of the July 28, 2011 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting; the minutes
Nvere approved 5 -0 Nvith Ms. Hinaber abstaining. After hearing two (2) previous cases, Chairman Rogers
introduced Case PZ- 22 -11, 999 N. Elmhurst Road at 8:57 p.m.
Ms. Andrade stated the Petitioner for PZ -22 -11 Nvas seeking approval to amend the Planned Unit Development
(PUD) to allow a drive - through restaurant at 999 N. Elmhurst Road.
Ms. Andrade said the Petitioner Nvas granted Conditional Use approval for a commercial Planned Unit
Development in 2008 for the redevelopment of the Randhurst Village Shopping Center. The approved PUD
placed a restriction on the number of drive through uses, Nvhich Nvould be permitted for three (3) banking facilities
and the JeNvel -Osco pharmacy. Any additional drive - throughs required an amendment to the PUD to ensure the
proposed use Nvould not negatively impact the functionality of the property. The Petitioner proposed to construct
a new outlot building that Nvould include a restaurant Nvith drive - through lanes; and Nvas seeking to modIA- the
approved PUD to allow the new drive - through restaurant. Per the Petitioner's application, they possess a signed
Letter of Intent Nvith a potential tenant that is conditional upon providing a drive - through for the restaurant.
Ms. Andrade stated per the Petitioner's elevation draNvings, the building Nvould be constructed out of brick veneer
and Nvould include avmings and metal canopies. She shoNved pictures of the elevations for the Subject Property.
Ms. Andrade said the Nvest elevation required revisions to incorporate additional architectural interest and building
materials. The Petitioner shall continue to Nvork Nvith Staff to refine the architecture of the building.
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Ms. Andrade said the north and south building elevations Nvould match the front facade. The building Nvould
measure twenty -eight (28) feet in height.
Ms. Andrade stated the drive - through restaurant Nvould occupy 4,000 square feet of the proposed building. A
single drive - through lane Nvould Nvrap along the Nvest building elevation and lead to a pick -up Nvindow located on
the south building elevation. The drive - through exit lane would need to be redesigned to avoid conflict between
vehicles leaving the drive - through lane and oncoming traffic. The existing driveNvay to the south of the proposed
outlot building Nvould be required to be reconfigured to be an exit only. The signage and pavement markings
Nvould need to be installed to allow for safe circulation and avoid traffic conflicts.
Ms. Andrade said the landscape plan illustrated a mixture of plantings that included shade trees, ornamental trees,
evergreen trees, shrubs, and perennials. The landscape plan Nvould be required to be revised to include additional
evergreen trees and shrubs along the Nvest property line to screen the drive - through lane. Additional plantings
Nvould be required in the parking lot islands to provide a minimum fifty (50) percent of live coverage in each.
Ms. Andrade stated the Petitioner's proposal for a drive - through restaurant Nvas compatible Nvith the approved
PUD for Randhurst and the underlying zoning for the Subject Property. Staff felt the proposed drive - through is
appropriate for the site and has been designed to limit any negative impacts on site circulation
Ms. Andrade said based on Staff's analysis, Staff recommended approval of the motion listed in the Staff Report.
The Village Board's decision Nvould be final for this case.
Chairman Rogers stated that he did not see a floor plan included Nvith the Petitioner's proposal. He asked Staff if
the proposed case Nvas identical Nvith a zoning request submitted previously by Panda Express at the Subject
Property. Ms. Andrade stated that Staff Nvas not familiar Nvith the previous zoning case. Chairman Rogers said
that Panda Express had submitted identical plans and the main objection Nvas Nvith the drive - through being on the
Elmhurst Road side of the property versus being on the interior of the lot. Mr. Floros said the trees Nvere an issue
Nvith the previous zoning case as Nvell.
Chairman Rogers said the menu boards that Nvere included Nvith the Petitioner's packet Nvere huge. He Nvanted to
clarif -,T that the signs Nvould need to conform to the Village Code. Ms. Andrade stated that Village Code only
allows one (1) menu board for each drive - through. She said the Petitioner Nvould have to apply for a Variation if
they Nvere to pursue a second menu board.
Mr. DonnelIv asked if there Nvas any consideration to place the drive - through on the east (interior) side of the
proposed building. Ms. Andrade said because of the overall circulation pattern for the shopping center, the drive -
through lane Nvas designed to run along Elmhurst Road Nvith consideration of the parking lot and a new primary
drive for the outlot buildings. Mr. Donnelly mentioned the possibility of redesigning entrance drives.
Ms. Hinaber discussed the landscape plan and asked how much screening of the drive - through there Nvould be.
Ms. Andrade stated that as shown on the landscape plan along Elmhurst Road, the screening Nvould include some
ornamental trees, shade trees, evergreen shrubs, and evergreen trees. One of the conditions of approval is to
install additional evergreen trees and plant materials. The additional screening Nvould need to be added to the
south property line.
There Nvas general discussion on how much screening Nvould be needed before the trees Nvould mature. Mr.
Simmons stated the Village Code has a minimum size for Nvhat could be planted. The Code takes in effect that
there Nvould be additional screening as plant materials age. Mr. Simmons said the Petitioner's original renderings
of the drive - through are not up to Code in regards to the landscaping. The Petitioner did update their draNvings to
show additional screening of the drive - through Nvith more evergreen shrubs.
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Chairman Rogers swore in all parties that Nvould be speaking on behalf of the Petitioner. He asked that each
person provide their name and address when speaking.
Rich Yaras of Casto Lifestyle Properties, 55 E. Euclid Avenue, Mount Prospect, Illinois provided a schedule for
the Subject Property. Mr. Yaras stated that the drive - through needs to be counter - clockwise so the drive - through
is on the driver's side. He discussed the proposed layout and queuing requirements. The Petitioner also had to
consider parking and pedestrians Nvhen the drive - through Nvas created.
Mr. Yaras said there Nvould be four (4) items included Nvith the drive - through: a nine (9) foot clearance bar to keep
truck traffic out of the proposed drive - through, a preview menu sign, a canopy Nvhere the speaker and microphone
Nvould be located, and the main drive - through menu board. He stated the proposed menu board is three (3) square
feet larger than Nvhat the Village Code allows. The menu board is angled to the north and Nvould not be a
distraction to motorists on Elmhurst Road.
Mr. Yaras said that they have revised their landscape plans based on comments from Village Staff. There are
additional groupings of evergreens on the north and south side of the property along Nvith the screening for the
trash enclosure. Mr. Yaras said that they have complied Nvith the fifty (50) percent requirement for landscaped
islands. He stated additional landscaping Nvould be added south of the Subject Property to help improve traffic
circulation.
Mr. Yaras stated the proposed tenant did Nvant a bypass lane included Nvith the drive - through; hoNvever, the
Petitioner said that they oniv Nvanted a single lane to minimize the amount of pavement on the Nvest side of the
Subject Property and to allow a greater buffer for landscaping. The plan for the Subject Property is similar to
Nvhat the Petitioner did Nvith the Pei Wei building.
Chairman Rogers asked if the building could be relocated or turned so the drive - through would come in the front
of the building. Mr. Yaras stated there Nvould be issues Nvith circulation and parking if the drive - through Nvas
relocated. Chairman Rogers asked if the proposed building and parking lot could be swapped. Mr. Yaras said
this may cause the proposed building to encroach on Bed, Bath, and Beyond's protected area Nvhere the building
cannot be built in their parking lot.
There Nvas discussion regarding the Steals and Shake parcel and its setback and configuration from Euclid Road.
There Nvas discussion regarding a potential monument sign for the Subject Property and how that Nvould affect the
proposed landscaping. Mr. Yaras stated the landscaping Nvas important. The Petitioner decided to add the
additional landscaping rather than the bypass lane.
Ms. Hinaber asked about the Nvait times in the drive - through for Pancra's other drive - through locations. Peter
Bizoukas of Panera Bread, 100 S. Gever Road, St. Louis, Missouri stated that he is the operator of Pancra's two
(2) other drive - through stores in NorthNvest Indiana. He stated there is another drive - through in Naperville,
Illinois that he does not operate. Mr. Bizoukas said their average Nvait time from when the order is placed until it
is picked up is five (5) minutes. He stated the preview board helps speed up the process.
There Nvas additional discussion regarding the Panera drive - through process and operation.
Mr. Bizoukas said Panera has just recently begun to introduce drive - through locations. He stated the Munster,
Indiana location is very similar to the proposed zoning case Nvith only one (1) lane in the drive - through. He said it
is a very efficient drive - through Nvith a small parking lot; there are no bottlenecks created by the drive - through.
Mr. Bizoukas discussed how his preference Nvould be to include a pass - through lane, but did not believe it Nvould
Nvork at the Subject Property.
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Mr. Roberts discussed the size of the proposed restaurant is 4,000 square feet; he Nvanted to know how many
people the inside dining room Nvould hold. Rachel Turner -Lauck of Norr Limited, 325 N. LaSalle, Chicago,
Illinois is the architect for Panera. She stated the current footprint Nvould yield eighty (80) to 100 seats inside. It
is smaller than Nvhat Panera has been building in the past, but Nvould offer the same products and nothing Nvould be
lost due to the drive - through. Ms. Turner -Lauck said there Nvould be additional seating outside as Nvell on east
side of the proposed building.
Mr. Roberts asked Nvhat the Petitioner Nvould envision going in the empty space that Nvould be adjacent to Panera.
Mr. Conrov of Casto Lifestyle Properties, 55 E. Euclid Avenue, Mount Prospect, Illinois stated that Casto Nvould
not be alloNved to have an eating establishment in the other part of the building due to restrictions set forth by Bed,
Bath, and Bevond. Any eatery larger than 4,000 square feet Nvould affect Bed, Bath, and Beyond's parking area.
Mr. Conrov stated the adjacent space Nvould have to be retail.
There Nvas general discussion if the building could be designed to be skinnier or to not even allow the extra
adjacent retail space. Mr. Yaras stated that it Nvould be a lot more expensive to build a smaller building at a
shallow depth; in addition, the Petitioner Nvould like to have the additional tenants. He said the outlot buildings
are popular sites on the Subject Property Nvith the traffic counts. Mr. Yaras stated that he could look at Nvays of
potentially developing a bypass lane that Nvould extend further.
Mr. Youngquist believed by making the building skinner on the Nvestern side Nvould allow for the Petitioner to
keep the landscaping and possibly allow space for a bypass lane.
There Nvas additional discussion regarding the landscaping, drive - through, and proposed building.
Mr. Roberts asked Nvhat the distance Nvas between Elmhurst Road and the proposed drive - through. Mr. Simmons
said it ��� as approximatel�T thirt�T (30) feet from back of curb to back of curb.
Chairman Rogers asked if it Nvould be possible to eliminate some of the landscaping along the Nvest side of the
proposed building alloNving the Petitioner to bring the drive - through lane closer to the building. This Nvould only
mean that three (3) to five (5) feet Nvould need to be removed from the Nvest side of the building to allow enough
room to create a bypass lane. Mr. Yaras said the landscaping and sideNvalk on the Nvest side of the building Nvas a
Panera requirement, but it could potentially be Nvorked out.
There Nvas additional discussion regarding the potential for a bypass lane.
Mr. Bizoukas stated there Nvere no issues if part of the sideNvalk Nvas eliminated. He said the only reason a
sidewalk Nvas needed in back Nvas for deliveries of food to the service door. There Nvas discussion when deliveries
Nvould take place at the Subject Property. Mr. Bizoukas stated there Nvould most likely be an overnight delivery
Nvhere the truck Nvould park in the drive - through lane.
Chairman Rogers said there Nvould be no need for a sideNvalk if the deliveries Nvere made overnight. He suggested
if the Petitioner Nvanted to keep the drive - through lane on the Nvest side of the building to heavily landscape the
berm Nvith trees tall enough to cover the menu boards.
There Nvas discussion on Nvhether or not the menu boards could be reduced in size to show breakfast and lunch
separately. Mr. Bizoukas stated the only item that Panera stops serving between breakfast and lunch is breakfast
sandNviches. Even-thing else is available all day.
Chairman Rogers stated there is a good chance that the size of the menu boards that the Petitioner currently has
Nvould not be approved; hoNvever, the menu boards are not part of the motion for the subject zoning case.
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There Nvas discussion about the building proposed to the North of the subject building. Mr. Yaras stated that it is
proposed outlot building N. Mr. Conroy stated that building N Nvas approved as part of the PUD, but there are
restrictions on the use of the building. He confirmed that Building N Nvould not be a drive - through due to
restrictions placed by Bed, Bath, and Beyond.
Mr. DonnelIv asked if the proposed Panera building be swapped Nvith Building N. Mr. Conroy stated Building N
Nvould be more problematic for the drive - through due to the detention basin. He said there Nvould be no drive
behind Building N at all. Mr. Donnelly confirmed that Building N Nvould be alloNved a ground sign along
Elmhurst Road as Nvell.
Mr. DonnelIv confirmed Nvith the Petitioner that he Nvould be back at the September Planning and Zoning Meeting
Nvith a revised plan.
Mr. Conroy explained the anchor tenants' restrictions and rights regarding proposed uses at the Randhurst Village
property.
Chairman Rogers asked if there Nvas anyone else in the audience to address this case. Hearing none, he closed the
public portion of the case at 9:46 p.m. and brought the discussion back to the board.
Mr. DonnelIv made a motion, seconded by Mr. Youngquist to continue Case Number PZ- 22 -11, 999 N. Elmhurst
Road, to the September 22, 2011 Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting.
UPON ROLL CALL: AYES: Donnelly, Floros, Hinaber, Roberts, Youngquist, Rogers
NAYS: None
Motion Nvas approved 6 -0 to continue the subject case.
Mr. DonnelIv made a motion, seconded by Mr. Roberts to adjourn at 9:47 p.m. The motion Nvas approved by a
voice vote and the meeting Nvas adjourned.
Rvan Kast, Community Development
Administrative Assistant
Richard Rogers, Chair PZ -22 -11
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