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COI~ITTEE OF THE WHOLE
~une 29~ ~993
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:08 p.m. by Mayor Gerald L.
Farley. Trustees present were George Clowes, Timothy Corcoran,
Richard Hendricks, Paul Hoefert, Michaele Skowron and Irvana Wilks.
Also present were Village Manager Michael Janonis, Fire Chief
Edward Cavello, Inspection Services Director Chuck Bencic,
Engineering Coordinator Jeff Wulbecker, Assistant Finance Director
Carol Widmer, Police Chief Ronald Pavlock, Operations Deputy Police
Chief Thomas Daley, Administrative Services Deputy Police Chief
Ronald Richardson, Commander Joseph Kolanowski, Public Works
Director Herb Weeks, Public Works Equipment/Maintenance
Superintendent Jim Guenther, Des Plaines City Manager Walter
Douthwaite, St. Emilyls Elementary School Principal Sister Danielle
Jacob and representatives of St. Emily"s Parent/Teacher
Organization, and Finance Commission Chairman Richard Bachhuber.
II. MINUTES OF NAY 25, 1993 & JUNE 8v 1993
The minutes of May 25, 1993 and June 8/ 1993 were accepted and
filed..
III. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD
Mr. Janonis introduced his mother, Grace Janonis who was in the
audience, to those present.
IV. ST. EMILY'S STOPLIGHT DISCUSSION
Mayor Farley r~ported that staff had thoroughly researched the need
for a stoplight at Homer and Central. Past discussions with
persons involved have led to proposals for a possible stoplight or
other alternatives. Mr. Janonis gave a brief history of how this
matter came to the attention of Village staff. ~Horner and Central
is where a crossing guard crosses approximately eight children
during the school year. These children attend St. Emily's
Elementary School.
During the past year the Police Chief had been informed that
parents were concerned for the safety of their children at this
crossing. There was also a concern for the safety of the crossing
guard..The Chief of Police recommended that the crossing guard be
eliminated based upon high traffic density, enforcement problems,
questionable gaps in the traffic to allow the crossing guard to
safely cross the children, roadway width and also visibility
problems in the morning when traffic is driving directly into the
sun.
Based upon the Police Chief's findings and his own observations,
Mr. Ja~enis agreed that the crossing guard should be eliminated.
This led to a meeting in April with representatives of St. Emily's
School when they~were advised of the recommendation of Mr. Janonis
and the Police Chief. The basic responsibility for the safety of
the children was also discussed and no consensus could be reached
as to alternative solutions for a crossing guard. This led to a
formal request by St. Emily's School representatives for a
stoplight.
This request resulted in Traffic Engineering staff conducting an
extensive study of the location supported by heavy enforcement of
the speed laws by both the Des Plaines and Mount Prospect Police
Departments. As part of the study, Engineering staff was asked to
see if .the appropriate warrants were present to justify a
stoplight. The finding was that there was no justification present
for a stoplight. The traffic enforcement study showed conclusively
that we do have people that do exceed the speed limit during school
hours at this~location.
It was pointed out by Mr. Jano~is that speed violations are not
a warrant for any traffic control device. He further indicated
that traffic control devices such as stop signs and stoplights have
a tendency to increase the speed of vehicles because people speed
up between them trying to make the next light. Mr. Ja~onis stated
that staff feels that a stoplight or any other traffic control
device would not provide the safety margin necessary for the
crossing guard to cross children safely at Homer and Central.
Staff concluded that the best option would be to have the children
transported by bus or by their parents. Mr. Janonis reported there
are currently over sixty children who live south of Central who
attend St. Emily's and currently get to school by other means.
Mr. Janonis reported there have been discussions about cost
relative to this concern but the major issue is safety. He
concluded by stating that it would be in the best interest of
that other options such as busing for all the children who attend
St. Emily's be explored. He requested that school staff contact
area school districts to see if they could assist in providing
buses for the school.
Sister Danielle pointed out that they have checked into busing for
the students but have found that the district that these children
live in does not provide busing. She stated that some St. Emily's
children are bused, but they live in districts that either provide
busing or a payment plan has been worked out with the parents.
Although she recognized that eight children is a low n~mher of
students who must cross the intersection, there are also over 200
children who are dropped off at the school and these cars must pull
in and out of the school yard. There was further discussion as to
the legal responsibility regarding children's safety.
Trustee skowron inquired as to what school district these children
reside in. Nancy Giannelli, a representative from St. Emily's,
replied that District 62 does not provide any busing for children
in the district unless there are special circumstances such as a
handicap. Trustee Skowron asked whether or not Sister Danielle had
contacted District 62 or 26. A general discussion of the
availability and application process to secure busing for the
students ~then took place. There was also a discussion on
contacting the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT) to
request assistance in finding busing for the students. Mayor
Farley suggested to school officials and parents present that
perhaps a car pool might be the answer to ~their concerns.
Representatives from the St. Emily's Parents/Teachers Association
stated they do drive their children because they are concerned for
their safety at Homer and Central. Trustee Hoefert inquired as
to whether or not the parents of the eight children perceive this
as a safety issue. The representatives replied they did.
Trustee Cor~oran inquired as to the locations of other crossings
for St. Emily's. It was pointed out that there is a crossing guard
in Des Plaines at Berkshire and Wolf. He suggested taking the
crossing guard from Homer and Central together with the crossing
guard from Berkshire and Wolf and having both guards at Central and
Wolf. This isolates the risk to a place where we have control,
which is an intersection, and funnels people to where they should
cross and not at an uncontrolled location. Trustee Corooran
recommended 'that formal requests be made to the two ~school
districts for busing for the students. He also suggested
contacting Legislator Marry Butler to see if State Legislation
could be changed to include safety as one of the criteria to
justify,the need for busing service.
Mr. Janonis informed the Board that there also is a crossing guard
provided by Des Plaines at Emmerson and Wolf Road who crosses
approximately eight children. Perhaps we can combine all of the
crossing guards and put them at Central and Wolf. Des Plaines city
Manager Walter Douthwaits, stating that he was not speaking for the
collective Des Plaines City Council, reported that it was also his
opinion that this was not a safe location for a crossing guard and
that the City of Des Plaines has-had preliminary discussions
relative to the possible elimination of their crossing guard
program along with other programs due to budgetary concerns. He
stated he would be willing to work with Mount Prospect and redeploy
their two crossing guards to Central and Wolf to assist in
funneling children to a safe crossing. However, he pointed out
that this would be at the most for the 1993-94 school year and that
in the future there possibly would not be funding for those
crossing guards.
Mayor Farley suggested a traffic light at Homer and Central~with
the expenses shared between interested parties.
Trustee Wilks asked Village Engineer Jeff Wulbecker to discuss the
warrants for both the traffic light and the crossing guard.~ He
reported warrants for a traffic light are not present, and the
roadway was definitely unsafe for the children crossing at the time
of the study_~due to the lack of the necessary 60 gaps per hour.
There were only 20 gaps per hour. There was also a discussion
relative to the legal position of the Village if the light,were
installed without meeting the warrants. Mayor Farley questioned
Engineering staff as to the possibility of the installation of a
school traffic light to be used only at specific times of the day.
Engineering staff recommended against that type of a light and gave
various reasons for this recommendation.
Trustee skowron, after a lengthy discussion about alternative
methods of crossing the children and slowing traffic down,
recommended that the school pursue the issue of busing with the
adjoining school districts. Trustee Eosfert stated that there are
definitely more appropriate solutions than the installation of a
light and he would certainly support Trustee Corcoran's
suggestions.
Mayor Farley concurred with Trustees Skowron and Hoefert that the
Village should assist St. Emily's in pursuing transportation with
the adjoining school districts. Trustee coroorancould not support
a stoplight or a crossing guard at Homer and Central, but would
support, if possible, placing our crossing guard at Central and
Wolf, joining the Des Plaines crossing guards in providing a safe
crossing at that location. Trustee Clowes agreed with Trustee
Corcoran and other Trustees that the crossing guard should not be
kept at Homer and Central and that the idea of having children
crossing at one location such as Central and Wolf should be
explored. He also stated that he was not aware, of the traffic
problem of cars entering 'and leaving the parking lot at St.
Emily's.
Mayor Farley stated that it appears there is a consensus that the
Village staff can work with the school district to formally request
district #26 consider busing the children to St. Emily's and that
St Emily's look at an alternative solution such as contracting for
busing, possibly with Pace. ~It was also suggested that leglslation
be pursued at a state'level to make safety a criteria for the
justification for providing funding for transportation of children
to school. Mr. Janon~s indicated he would'work with staff in an
attempt to follow up on these recommendations and come to~ some
conclusion before the start of the 1993-94 school year.
v. POLICE ANDFIREHEADQUARTERS UPDATE
Mr. Janonis presented the list of Change Orders for the new
facility and informed the Board that the building construction is
still under budget. He also indicated that it would probably take
30 - 60 days to work out some of the minor problems with the
building, at which time an "Open House" would be considered. Mayor
Farley polled the Board and there was a consensus as to the ~.)
approval of th~ Change Orders.
Trustee Hoefert and Trustee Wilks expressed concern as to some of
the minor points that were missed by the architect on the building,
but after a short discussion concluded that these problems do
arise.
Mr. Janonis expressed his appreciation and complimented staff from
the various departments who were involved in the planning,
construction and occupation of the new facility. He especially
commended Project Director Commander Joe Kolanowski for his
tenacious approach to a finished building. Several Trustees
complimented staff and especially Commander Kolanowski on a job
well done in supervising the construction of the new building.
Trustee Hoefert did request that consideration be given in the near
future for the placement of a guard rail on the west side of the
parking structure to prevent citizens from walking off the end.
VI. PHASE III FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT UPDATE
Mr. Janonis introduced Public Works Director Herb Weeks, who was
asked to give an overview on the status of four major flood control
projects scheduled for construction this fiscal year. Before this
discussion took place there was considerable dialogue between the
Village Manger, the Mayor and the Public Works Director as toga
1,350 foot section of recently discovered extremely deteriorated
combined sewer pipe on one of the projects. They pointed out that
the Prospect Manor/North Main Project had been progressing smoothly
until this deteriorated condition was found. The estimated cost
of the additional repairs to this section is approximately $115,000
plus engineering fees.
Director Weeks then discussed the four projects (Des Piaines River
Backwater Valves, Prospect Manor/North Main Sanitary, Hatlen
Heights Sanitary, and Fairview Gardens Sanitary). He reported they
were all coming in under budget and he expected no problems with
completion. Director Weeks also gave a brief report on the status
of the elevated tank renovation and indicated it was on schedule
with minimal problems.
A discussion among the Trustees ensued about the various projects.
Director Weeks answered their questions. Mayor Parley asked if
there was a consensus to support continued funding of the projects.
The Board unanimously agreed.
VII. DZBCUSSZONI~EG~RDING POOL C2LI~FLEETM~INTEN~NCE
Mr. Janonie indicated to the Board that the purpose of this agenda
item was to give the Board an opportunity to review the Village's
current fleet maintenance and replacement program. During the past
several weeks Village staff met and conducted an extensive review
of our current system. Mr. Janonie reported that after the series
of lengthy meetings it is his conclusion that the program was
adequately serving the needs of the Village. ' He stated that it
would be appropriate at this meeting to have further discussion so
that the Board would have a better understanding of the program for
car fleet replacement and maintenance, including its design, review
criteria and subjective components. Before a discussion ensued
among the Trustees, Mr. Janonis indicated that this program under
discussion at this meeting would be restricted to squads, staff
cars and pool cars. Trustee Hoefert began the discussion by
pointing out that he felt very strongly and wanted it understood
that any vehicle program for the Village should have life safety
as its priority. He wanted staff and the Board to understand that
this was his top concern. He then asked staff to comment on the
replacement schedule and especially the two year program on police
cars.
A discussion by Deputy Police Chief Ron Richardson, Public
Works Equipment/Maintenance Superintendent Jim Guenther and Police
Chief Ronald Pavlock covered warranties, maintenance costs, safety
issues and the recycling of vehicles. It was pointed out to the
Board that the Village has tried programs in the past where
vehicles have been driven in excess of 100,000 miles, but the cost
per mile became cost prohibitive and that with the new warranties
and trade-in values it is more cost effective to recycle the
vehicles or put them up for auction.
Trustee Corcoran summarized various cost effective ways of
approaching the replacement vehicles based upon his expertise in
the area of vehicle component maintenance. He indicated there were
certain parts of vehicles that have to be replaced over the years
due to wear and mileage, i.e., tires, mufflers, engine parts and
others based upon time such as body parts. He further stated that
new manufacturer warranties for passenger vehicles are seven years,
70,000 miles because they know that at the end of that period of
time and/or mileage things are going to start deteriorating.
Trustee Corooran further pointed out that the duty cycle a police
car goes through is probably one of the roughest ways for a car to
run. The cars that we buy as police cars are almost consumables
because the $10,000 or $12,000 we pay is almost less than a dealer
would pay for a vehicle. The auto manufacturers want to get these
vehicles out on the street to advertise their product.
Trustee corcoran articulated the various cost factors that are
taken into consideration when these vehicles are driven as police
cars for a period of two years or 50,000 - 60,000 miles. He
pointed out that a squad vehicle may cost $10,000 - $12,000 and at
the end of two years the Village will receive back a $4,000 rebate
less any maintenance costs along the way, which allows us to get
rid of the vehicle at a minor loss before it becomes a problem.
He further stated that once a vehicle reaches its upper mileage
limits certain items must be replaced. Also, while that vehicle
is being repaired a replacement is necessary at an additional cost.
rustee Hendricks inquired as to whether or not there was an
exception for police cars under new dealer warranties. Mr.
Guenther advised there is no exception. Trustee Clowes asked that
the Village budget lease charges be explained. This led to a
discussion about the lease charges and history and the benefits as
presented in our current budgeting system. A discussion among the
Trustees, Village Manager and Mayor ensued about the current cost
program. Further discussion was also held as to the right sizing
of vehicles and how the committee will continue to look at
alternative cost effective vehicle maintenance programs.
Mayor Farley described his many years of experience as a Trustee
and as the Mayor in dealing with our current program, indicated
his support and complimented staff on a job well done. Mr. Janonis
indicated that if there was a better way we could do the job and
tie it into our current performance budget system we would do just
that in the future. Trustee Clowes indicated his interest in a
continuation of the information flow as to our innovative program
and that we should share it not only with the Village Board but
also with our neighboring communities. Trustee Corcoran pointed
out that most people do not take as good of care of their personal
vehicles as the Mayor and Trustee Hoefert, and that is why there
needs to be a planned maintenance program. Most vehicles
deteriorate due to maintenance failure. That is why the previously
described fleet maintenance/replacement program works so well.
VIII. MANAGER~SREPORT
Mr. Janonis invited the elected officials to tour the maintenance
facilities at Public Works to personally observe the innovative
maintenance program at their convenience.
IX. ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Trustee Wilks commented on the request by Lil and Leo Floros that
the Village form an official Special Events Committee and supported
the concept. Mayor Farley polled the Board and the consensus was
that a Special Events Committee should be considered.
Trustee Hendr~cks brought forth a concern about a line-site concern
present at Emmerson and Wolf. He asked that staff review this
problem.
X. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:5§ p.m.
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