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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/25/1971 VB minutes MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE PRESIDENT AND BOARD OF TRUSTE. W~ ~Y 25~ 1971 CALL TO ORDER ~Cat~t to order President Teichert called the meeting to order at $:05 P.M. INVOCATION Invocation -'" Trustee Furst gave the invocation. ROIL CALL Present upon ~Oll call: Ahem Furst Monroe Scholten Reiter Teichert Absent: Anderson Roll Call This special meeting was called for the purpose of holding a public change of HILusi hearing regarding the change of HiLusi Avenue to one-way south- to one-way south- bound only between Prospect Avenue and Busse Avenue, pursuant to bound only between public notice. The following residents were in attendance: Prospect Ave. & B~sse Ave° Steve H~nter, 11 S. HiLusi Sam B. Allen, 20 S. HILusi Richard Coopmans, 17 S. HiLusi Richard A. Sachtschale, 21 S. HiLusi Roger W. Major, 16 S. HiLusi Wanda J. Allen, 20 S. HiLusi Marilyn Coopmsns, 17 S. HiLusi James Wolf, 23 S. HiLusi Marge Ma~or, 16 S. HiLusi Herbert W. Fitch, 19 S. HiLusi R.W. Doolittle, 10 S. HILusi Joseph J. Grittani, 310 S. HiLusi L.S. Kaye, 8 S. HiLusi Ed Miller, 18 S. HiLusi Also present were Rc~ald E. Jankouskas end Ralph V. Kingsbury of the Illinois Division of Highways, Jfum Fasconcelles, of the firm of Crawford, Bunte and Roden, and William McMsnamon, Acting Village ~gineer. The proposed change to one block of HI-Lusi to one-way southbound was in conjunction with the upg~ading of the intersection of the Northwest Highway and Central Road in an agreement between the _ Village, State and the railroad. The Federal Government required the hearing on the proposal because it constituted a change in the neighborhood. Mr. Jim Vasconcelles, Regional Manager of the Chicago Office of Crawford ~ Bunte and Roden stated his firm reconm~nded the up- grading of the signals at the intersection of the Northwest Highway and Central Road and to signalize the intersection Of Central and Prospect Avenue to eliminate the possibility of csrs stopping on the railroad tracks. M~. Dick Sachtschale, Mr. Ji~ Wolf, Mr, Steve Hunter, offered alternative suggestions. Trustee Ahem, seconded by Trustee Scholten, moved to modify the recon~nendation regarding the intersection layout at the Northwest Highway~ Prospect Avenue, HILusi and Central Road as shown on page 53 of the Traffic Control Stud~ of March, 1970 to indicate an ex- tension of a divider at Prospect Avenue through the extended inter- section of Hi~usi with the addition of a right-turn only sign to be erected &t the northerly approach of HiLusi at the intersection with Prospect Avenue. Upon roll call: Ayes: Ahem Furst Monroe Scholten Reiter Mot ien carried. Trustee Furst, seconded by Trustee Scholten, moved that on the recommended intersection layout at Northwest Highway, Prospect Avenue, HLLusi and Central Read as outlined in the T~affic Safety and Related Studies dated March, 1970, as an alternative to the previous motion, HiLusi at the intersection of Prospect Avenue be provided with an island whereby traffic northbound on HiLusi would be prevented from crossing the Prospect intersection and be contained to right-turn only. Upon roll~:~call: Ayes: Ahem Furst Monroe Scholten Reiter Motion carried. ADJOE Adjournment Trustee Furst, seconded by Trustee Scholten, moved the meeting be adjourned. Time: 9:10 P.M. Unanimous. DONALD W. GOODMAN, Village Clerk PUBLIC HEARING before the BOARD OF TRUSTEES of MOUNT PROSPECT, ILLinois STENOGRAPHIC REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS AT the Municipal Building, 112 East Northwest Highway, Mount Prospect, Illinois, on Tuesday, May 25, 1971, at 8:00 o'clock P. M. PRESENT: ROBERT D. TEICHERT, Village President DONALD W. GOODMAN, Village Clerk VILLAGE TRUSTEES RICHARD H. MONROE DANIEL J. AHERN GEORGE REITER KENNETH V, SCHOLTEN DONALD B. FURST JOHN J. ZIMMERMANN, Village Attorney 2 . PRESIDENT TEICHERT: The special meeting of the ' Village Board of Mount Prospect, May 25, 1971, will please come to order. The invocation will be given by Trustee Furst. (Invocation) PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Will you please call the roll. iy MR. GOODMAN: President Teichert? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Here. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Ahern? ff MR. AHERN: Here. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Anderson? (No response) Trustee Furst? MR. FURST: Here. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Monroe? MR. MONROE: Here. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Reiter? 11s MR. REITER: Here. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Scholten? MR. SCHOLTEN: Here. { ',r 3. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: The purpose of this hearing is very confined. As stated in the agenda, it is 1 a public hearing regarding the change of Hi -Lusi 11 Avenue to one -way southbound only between Prospect 11 and Busse Avenues. The request for this hearing was brought q 9 about g primarily after a lot of years. We know that the March, 1970 safety control by Crawford, Bunte, Ij Roden, Page 53,, showed an upgrading of the intersec- a tion of Northwest Highway and Central, and this is a something we have been pursuing for years and finally got an agreement, engineeringwise, between the Village, fl the State and the railroad, and in its latest form the Federal Government requires a hearing on the I proposal of the changing of one of the lateral streets, I' namely, Hi -Lusi, to one -way, inasmuch as any change in streets feeding into that would constitute a change of neighborhood, and undertheir requirements there should be a public hearing. That is the purpose of this hearing and I don't k know, are members from Crawford, Bunte, Roden here? MR. JAMES VASCONCELLES: Yes. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Would you come forward, Jim? I 1. 4. We will wait one second. I presume all of you are residents of Hi -Lusi. We will get a couple of books on the traffic study, and that is what Mr. Zimmermann went to get, and you I can each just take the time to look at that, while a representative of Crawford, Bunte & Roden explains the intersection. I know your main concern, of ! course, is specifically Hi -Lusi, our concern is the entire intersection, and he will describe the entire l intersection. And I think by looking at the map that is in the book you can understand what is going to occur in the entire intersection. We will do it somewhat informally, I believe. After he has explained it anyone who has any 1 1! questions about the intersection, just put your hand up and we will get the answers, if possible, to those , questions. ea P, MR. GOODMAN: Page 53. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Now, just at this point 0 53 is a diagramatic showing of that intersection, and this will -- after the explanation of it there is supporting documentation in the way of studies in the back of the book, but right now if you turn it sidewise so you can read it with the north up, or suit i I 5. yourself. All right, Jim, would you like to explain this? MR. VASCONCELLES: My name is Jim Vasconcelles. I am regional manager of the Chicago metropolitan !' i area office of Crawford, Bunte & Roden, and as part :11 of our traffic safety control study, which was p conducted for the Village of Mount Prospect, we I ` recommended the upgrading of signals at the inter- !' section of Northwest Highway and Central Road. At present the signals at the intersection !!! control only traffic on Central at the intersection west to Northwest Highway. Our recommendation was t ` to upgrade the signals at the intersection of North - I I I west Highway and Central Road, and also signalize the intersection of Central and Prospect Avenue. These two sets of signals would be coordinated together and would have railroad preeminence, to oi 1 1 eliminate the possibility of cars stopping on the railroad tracks. The phase for these figures is shown I on Page 55, I believe. In connection with this we recommended that Hi -Lusi be made one -way southbound, for the following 1 �yt 6. �f p reasons: No. 1: If Hi -Lust was left as a two-way street, with all turning movements allowed at the inter- section of Hi -Lusi and Prospect it would become 1 le necessary to also signalize Hi -Lusi, because unless f traffic stops for the signal at Central Road and i( Prospect Avenue it will block the intersection and make it very difficult for automobiles on Hi -Lusi traveling northbound, traveling west on Prospect O and then proceed straight on Central Road. VOICE: Repeat that. i MR. VASCONCELLES: O.K. If Hi -Lusi were left as 1, a two -way street and all turning movements were re allowed, that is traffic going northbound were allowed to go left and right or proceed straight north to Central and then allowed to turn right on Central, it would be necessary to signalize the 111 intersection of Hi -Lusi and Prospect Avenue, in order E' to provide gaps for the automobiles specifically turning left onto Prospect and onto Central and turning right onto Central. By making it one -way it, of course, eliminates pl all these movements and therefore relieves some of 7. the congestion that would develop at the intersection pp of Central and Prospect Avenue. So the recommendation is made for two reasons. One: Economics, the cost of signalizing that inter- section. And No. 2, if it were not signalized to eliminate congestion. MR. RICHARD SATCHSHALE: Is that the extent of it? Have you considered the people living on that street? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Would you stp up and identify fs ,1 yourself? MR. SATCHSHALE: Dick Satchshale, 21 South Hi -Lusi. rt Has consideration been given to the people on Pi our block? Take the worst condition. If we were i f traveling from Arlington Heights southeast towards Mount Prospect and make the turn at Central so that 6 we can get to our street, we have to make a right turn onto Central, proceed west on Central to Wapella, turn left, most likely wait in heavy traffic because I of the backup of the signals, go south on Wapella, stop again at Busse, turn left, travel east, pass Hi -Lusi to I -Oka, make another left turn and proceed north, stop at Prospect Avenue, turn left and go through the same series of signals again, wait in gg� 8. heavy traffic, possibly make another left turn and ,! then drive down our block and get to our home, and any other combination you take thereof. MR. VASCONCELLES: You are talking about there is f a left turn? MR. SATCHSHALE: Will there be a left turn allowed there, so we can get into our street? 1; MR. VASCONCELLES: That's right. MR. SATCHSHALE: If that be the case we are headed k all right, but if we can't make a turn to get into our Ik street from the north end of the block, coming from 1; the Arlington Heights area, or any other direction, -- 1 MR. VASCONCELLES: You can li get in from the north I d end. For example, you can come across the tracks. But if you are coming east on Central you just turn sl I right on Hi -Lusi, as you do now. MR. SATCHSHALE: Then we will be allowed entry on that? MR. VASCONCELLES: Oh, yes, southbound. Proceeding west on Central you can also turn south from Hi -Lusi, i4 west on Central -- if ou are Y proceeding westbound on rIcentral you can turn left at Central and Prospect and l proceed. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: The report says the left it 9. ii 11I� 11 turns from Central Road to Prospect Avenue will remain restricted, as at present, so there would be no change. MR. FURST: You can't do that now. 1 j MR. SATCHSHALE: You can't turn west on Central I a westbound onto Hi -Lusi. You turn left at Wapella. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Correct, that will remain un- changed. MR. VASCONCELLES: Yes, that's right. MR. SATCHSHALE: We have a 6 block entree into our { homes. MR. VASCONCELLES: It depends on how you approach it. I 4 PRESIDENT TEICHERT: I mean, for example, if you ri r approach it from the south you merely go down Wapella 1 1 and turn right, come in from Central south on Hi -Lusi, and if you came from the west you would do that, 11 and if you came from the east, depending on which I side of the tracks you were, and if you came up { Busse you just go up Wapella, or you can turn west on Prospect. The only time there is a problem is when you are on the north side of the tracks, but that of course restricts everybody. Otherwise we would have a traffic jam there constantly. That is fi why it was taken off originally. to So there is that one, I can't deny that. When 1 10. you make that one -way south it causes some incon- i ,! venience. I think everyone is aware of that. Yes, sir. Would you identify yourself? if MR. JAMES WOLF: I am Jim Wolf, 23 South Hi -Lusi. H What we were proposing was just something that we dreamed up on the spur of the moment. It was to retain the two -way situation on Hi -Lusi to the full ! extent of the berm at the end of Hi -Lusi at Prospect Avenue, allowing only a righthand turn at that point, installing a righthand turn sign, control signs only. Frankly, I feel there will be considerably increased traffic on Hi -Lusi Avenue, with a stop sign at the corner of Hi -Lusi and Busse. The cost of a situation like this, roughly speaking, cannot exceed $1,000 for the type of work I , that we are talking about here, and at the same time f allows no restriction on the people living on the street. They are allowed ingress and egress without d disturbing the overall plan. We take this into consideration, realizing the jf h problems at Northwest Highway and Central. It should 1 have been taken care of years ago. This plan is of secondary importance. We realize whatever you planned 11. 1 1 for that area certainly should be implemented, but we submit this. 1 PRESIDENT TEICHERT: All right. There is nothing unreasonable n �. that solution, I don't think. How do you feel? MR. VASCONCELLES: That is not unreasonable. In h fact, this was the alternative considered. PRRESIDENT TEICHERT: That Hi -Lusi be left two -way 1 1 , but northbound only for one -way traffic on Prospect r Avenue. If it were right turn only is it necessary? I use the word "berm" as a divider. Is that a I necessity? MR. SATCHSHALE: May I clarify this diagram? ? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Sure. I1 MR. SATCHSHALE: If the bermed area were cut through there at the gates -- I don't know if every k one can see this. I PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Why don't you pass that around? MR. SATCHSHALE: That is not to scale, it is merely ' a sketch. MR. VASCONCELLES: The alternative there would be to extend the median of Prospect Avenue to prohibit 1 cars from proceeding. They nave an island on Hi -Lusi. 12. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: If the median were extended L . it would do the same job. MR. VASCONCELLES: That's right. i'. MR. REITER: You would have to cut the berm off 1 1 at Prospect for a lefthand turn. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Except w e are not concerned j l about a lefthand turn. (Discussion off the record) PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Jim, there was an alternative ii I know that was discussed before. Would that be f1 j feasible then to extend the existing island at II Prospect, extend that up so it p prevents crosstraffic 0 from coming out of Hi -Lusi and northbound on Hi -Lusi yj and leaving the street two ways? MR. VASCONCELLES: Yes, that is a possibility. That median could be extended up to the intersection. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: All right. In other words, you get the same effect. You are talking about a berm, you are talking about dividing Hi -Lusi. MR. VASCONCELLES: Right. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: This way you extend up Prospect, have northbound only on Hi -Lusi. You get the same !f thing. You can go both ways on your street. Cf 13, 1 i1 MR. SATCHSHALE: Then we can still have a two -way street? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Right. MR. SATCHSHALE: Then we have no problem. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Yes, sir? MR. HUNTER: My name is Steve Hunter, I live at h 11 South Hi -Lusi. (( 3 In support of this alternative plan now that we have got it on the board, I would like to remind 1 everyone that almost every house on both sides of the street has only a single -car garage. Although parking j? on the streets is limited to two hours, it at least 1; gives us a little opportunity when we are being R;. visited by friends, where we must bounce cars in and 1; out you have a place to put our automobiles. If this jl were to be turned into a one -way street we would have r ' a hell of a problem. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: I think I have to admit, on behalf of the Board and the traffic engineers dealing with this, Hi -Lusi was sort of like the tail of the dog. When you are looking at that entire intersection I don't think it was the intent to switch a problem from one street to another. I gather from the traffic engineers that this 14. f would fill the bill, this alternative, as well, and 11 ' if it doesn't upset � p you people it also makes the I meeting not necessary only because by posting a I sign there "Right turn only" it doesn't affect the 1 I ; neighborhood, under the Federal regulations. If I you peole are the only ones affected, in fact you if are not even affected by this one, so I gather this C would be agreeable with you people. How does,; the Board feel? It MR. AHERN: It sounds like a divider there would only cost $750 and the berm would cost a thousand. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: That would be no problem, changing the "specs ". MR. VASCONCELLES: No problem. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: It presents no problem traffic- wise, is that correct? 1' MR. VASCONCELLES: That is correct. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Then I think perhaps it might be in order having the meeting -- the Chair will li I entertain a motion modifying the recommended inter- ! section layout for Northwest Highway, Prospect I 4 l Avenue, Hi -Lusi Avenue and Central Road, as shown {d on Page 53 of the traffic safety and traffic control 4 15. 1 studies of March, 1970, to indicate an extension of 11 the divider on Prospect Avenue through the extended right 1! intersection of Hi -Lusi, with the addition of a ri !' g jf turn only sign to be erected on the northerly approach th tj of Hi -Lusi as it intersects with Prospect Avenue. MR. AHERN: I so move. MR. SCHOLTEN: I second the motion. MR. SATCHSHALE: I point out that it will be a two -way street. } PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Well, there is no change. We are changing the diagram here. The street is two way and we are not making any changes. All right, is there any discussion? ii MR. REITER: Just so that everybody Y y goes away ii 11' understanding, I would like to point out to you people os that with the median being closed off that access '! to your street, if you are driving northwest on Prospect, is closed off to you. MR. SATCHSHALE: We don't need it. MR. REITER: O.K., as long as g you understand that, that is fine. Then there isn't any last- minute surprise. MR. FRED MILLER: Could I ask a question? 16. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Yes, sir. Will you identify Ir yourself, for the record? MR. MILLER: Yes. I am Fred Miller, 18 South Hi -Lusi, and I have lived in this area for 14 years and I have discussedthis and have quite a file of transcript between Mount Prospect people, the State of Illinois and the Illinois Commission of Highways, and I have this question: I am coming from Prospect Avenue going north. F 1 I would like to go to Northwest Highway. Now, how do I get there? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: You just turn right, hard right, just as you do now. You turn hard right and I� go to the crossing, MR. MILLER: Very good, that is very clear. Now I am coming up Prospect Avenue and I want to go on Central. What do I do? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Well, if you want to go east ?+ on Central -- MR. MILLER: I want to go west on Central. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: You go straight across the intersection. But now you see the intersection will i i be signalized. What you do now is hope Y they stop 17. r( on the line back there to get across. And one of the 9 purposes of signalizing that intersection is so there i is a gap and go straight across. There is no dif- ference in what you do now except you won't be taking the risk you do now. MR. MILLER: I have heard more people called s.o.b.s. on that corner because they can't get through. And will this new light permit me to turn left on J i Central, from Prospect Avenue? MR. VASCONCELLES: Yes. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Jim, you are a traffic engineer. MR. WOLF: Yes, it will. Unfortunately I took a I little dog that just died recently up to that corner, 1 ' and I have seen more people crash, more accidents on that corner than I was hopeful for. Now you are saying that if I come up Prospect Avenue -- let's re -do this, please -- and I wanted to go west on Central Avenue, that I can make that turn i`. with a right, without interference with cross - traffic? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: That is the idea. MR. WOLF: That is correct. MR. MILLER: Now I think that just about answers F ' it, because this has been a real problem and I have i3 18. studied it. I have my file here, if anybody would like to review it I would be very happy to spend the time with you. I don't want to take Y your time but I this is very important. Thank you. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Thank you, sir. Is there any other comment or discussion? MR. MILLER: May I come back for just one more ai question? Now, this morning I saw a left turner. I think he was coming from Central Avenue going west. He disobeyed the lefthand turn and practically skidded O o around the corner making a lefthand turn, which was it virtually a "U" turn going down Prospect Avenue. And I prayed for the guy because he just barely did not get hit. ! Now, I have seen other people taking their children m to school. I saw one hit broadside when he had five is kids in that car, making that lefthand turn. Now my question is: -- Picture this. I am coming down Northwest Highway going east. I make the "U" ' turn which is with the light. Do you follow me? 1! PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Yes. MR. MILLER: O.K. Now what is to prevent a driver it i �. 19. making that "U" turn going either down Hi -Lusi or Prospect? That would be an "S" turn. Correct? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Correct. MR. MILLER: Do you follow me? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Yes, sir, I certainly do. MR. MILLER: O.K. Now, if a light is there officially he should not be able to make that "S" s turn, he would have to go west on Central Avenue. j { PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Right. MR. MILLER: O.K. In other words, that light should prevent him from disobeying the law. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: It isn't the light, it is the sign that says "No left turn". The light would merely I stop him. A light only makes you stop or go, and there will be a light there, it will either be green 1 1 or red. What keeps him from turning left is a sign that says "No left turn". ds MR. MILLER: Just a minute here. We have had a lefthand turn at that corner and this morning, as I just told you, there was a man who made a lefthand i turn and I prayed for him, that he didn't get hit. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: What you are explaining is when the light is red and the guy drives through it. 20. 1 1 ' You see, there is nothing we can do if he disobeys the sign. In this case the only choice would be to put a f4 divider down there, If you do that people can't {; go from Prospect onto Central. You have to choose one or the other as a traffic flow and use your f 1' signals and signs to stop the other. MR. MILLER: Well, the point I am making -- I I will just revise this, because this is very important. You are coming down Northwest Highway, Correct? d PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Correct. t MR. MILLER: You make a "U" turn at that sharp narrow alley to the right, to the right. O.K. IE Now, then where is the man going? Is he going down Central Avenue? Is he going to make the "S" H turn to go down Prospect or go down Hi -Lusi? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: If he makes a left turn to go down Hi -Lusi, he is doing it illegally. MR. MILLER: Very good. You have taken care of j: what I was thinking of. Thank you. is PRESIDENT TEICHERT: All right. On the motion If that is on the floor will the Clerk please call the roll? 21. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Furst? MR. FURST: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Monroe? MR. MONROE: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Scholten? MR. SCHOLTEN: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Reiter? MR. REITER: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Ahern? MR. AHERN: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Carried unanimously. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Motion carried. Again, so that there is no end left open I would like to suggest another motion. The engineers L were sketching in the berm that you gentlemen sug- gested. While it did not look quite the same it ' could be in a modified form and accomplish the same thing and still permit left turns off of Prospect, R which might be an alternative that would be desirable. And so there wouldn't have to be another meeting I is suggest this one. If you can see, it is a berm arrangement much like you suggested. This would prevent crossing, hopefully it could 22. , be made to prevent crossings but still permit left turns off of Prospect. Just so we don't have to have another meeting I will show it to the Board i members and ask you what you think of it. It is what you talked about. MR. SATCHSHALE: I believe that sketch may have been a combination of extending the Prospect median strip and the island. 9; jj PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Right. MR. SATCHSHALE: I think it may have. That is really a composite of the discussion before. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Really the one sketched by i the engineer is very similar to the one you sketched. Yes, sir? MR. WOLF: Mr. President, I would just like to ask i Jim a question. Mr. President, I would like to ask the gentleman here a question in regard to the lights on Northwest Highway. Are they going to be improved to permit lefthand I i turns going west on Northwest Highway onto Central? Right now there is a delay of 10 to 12 or 15 seconds 1 1 while about five cars get through. I was just wonder- ing if this is going to be improved. 23. MR. VASCONCELLES: There will be a protected left turn on Northwest Highway for both directions, for • westbound on Central and eastbound on Central from k • Northwest Highway. MR. WOLF: Is that indicated too? MR. VASCONCELLES: Yes, an arrow turn. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: It has been very difficult ;f to get an agreement between the engineers as well i as the various governing bodies as to the construc- • tion as well as the phasing, and we think finally Ei ' one has been worked out. It has been on the drawing board long enough. The Chair would entertain a • motion. 9'. MR. MILLER: I would like to have one moment. 9 ". PRESIDENT TEICHERT: All right. MR. MILLER: It seems to me that the renovations f ` required to improve this horrible corner are minimal a p' from the standpoint of the monetary situation, and I x cannot understand, according to the paper, how and why it should cost $84,000 to produce the simple renovation. I just simply can't understand it. I am virtually a retired taxpayer, I have been here for 14 years. la And when I look at a street up here at a school r f 1 24. up just north on 83, that has got eight traffic lights where there is a school crossing. We have guards. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: What school? MR, MILLER: I am trying to think of the street. I will remember it in just a minute. VOICE: Gregory. MR. MILLER: Gregory, that's right. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: It has eight lights? MR. MILLER: It has eight traffic lights, eight traffic poles sitting up with lights "Don't Walk ", and they have people out there with uniforms on to let the kids get across the street. Now, our corner down there has only five traffic lights. It is one of the saddest, most terrible corners in our area. And that is why we have a meeting here, to try to correct it, and I have been trying to correct it for years and I can't see why it takes $84,000 to correct our corner. I just can't under- stand it. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: I am not an engineer but I can explain to you people a simple light, for example, at a simple intersection such as Central and School -- 25. I think you may remember a light like that -- to the best of my recollection was $28,000. That is just a straight head -on one. There must be about eleven standards. MR. VASCONCELLES: Yes, eleven. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Eleven standards on this one. And of course that is quite a few. And in addition other things happen at an intersection such as this. Not only do you have a complex number of standards but the State constantly changes their standards. For example, when you approach an intersection you are supposed to see three banks of lights, first across the street on your side, hanging over. And these are the standards the State has applied. The arms, everything. They want the people to go with their standards. In addition, when you have multiple intersec- tions like this that have to be phased you get into electronic circuits, phasing them, that goes on. This becomes expensive. I can only say things are laid out engineering -- ; wise. They are put up for bids, the lowest bidder d gets it. It is estimated they will cost $84,000 26. to wrap it up. I can tell you things are done on bids, the lowest bidder qualifies and gets the job. Yes, sir? MR. ROGER MADER: My name is Roger Mader, 116 c i South Hi -Lusi. I understand the proposal and the setup of the 11 new lighting system the way it is going to be now. I { just have one question with reference to traffic going east on Central, wanting to go northwest on Northwest Highway. €a As it stands now you have to wait for the ri traffic going west on Central, if you want to turn r left there. Is the new setup going to remain the same with respect to that situation, or would there fi be an arrow provided to allow traffic to go west? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Jim? MR. VASCONCELLES: Are you talking about eastbound, li Central to Northwest? MR. MADER: Wants to turn. 1 MR. VASCONCELLES: Look on Page 56. There is 1 1 , phasing for a left turn. Eastbound traffic on Central E 1 will be able to cross the intersection by allowing i `. 9. 27. turns straight through, a right turn, and opposing '! traffic will be stopped. 1 MR. MADER: All right. Thank you. i ' PRESIDENT TEICHERT: I will entertain a motion i l l on the intersection layout at Northwest Highway, I Prospect Avenue, Hi -Lusi and Central Road. Traffic safety control studies of March, 1970 as an alter - C`, native to the previous motion, that Hi -Lusi at the ; intersection of Prospect Avenue, be provided with an island whereby traffic northbound on Hi -Lusi I would be prevented from crossing the Prospect inter - �i ;1 section and be contained to a right turn only. Is there such a motion? ii MR. RITTER: I so move. MR. MONROE: I second the motion. cS MR. PURST: What is the alternative? Is there going to be a No. 1 and No. 2, or will it depend j upon what the State would accept? ii PRESIDENT TEICHERT: I think it would be what our engineer would recommend and what the State will accept there too. MR. VASCONCELLES: I think what we will do is take ft a close look at both alternatives and then make a 28. recommendation. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: The berm on the island looks very nice, but it might turn out to make that work you might have to take a section of the grade, but we could go either way. MR. FURST: The only question I have is do we have the time? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: I think the alternative, if 1 they were both accessible to the Board I think the engineers could actually resolve that tomorrow. They are going to have to revamp it. MR. VASCONCELLES: There would be a change in- volving drawings, which would take about a day to get a sheet from the Division of Highways to make 1 the change. You are talking about two or three days. MR. FURST: If the State doesn't accept that 1 proposal aren't we cutting it kind of tight? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: If I understand correctly Jim I has indicated the State would take either proposal. MR. VASCONCELLES: I believe they would take either one. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: They would like to draw this i island out exactly to scale, to see if it would work, fl 29. and as long as either one would work satisfactorily i; the Board, the engineers, would select one of the i two which does the job the best. MR. VASCONCELLES: That's right. I can't see the j ; Division of Highways being opposed to either alterna- i tive . i MR. MILLER: Do you want to bet it doesn't have to r 1; go to Springfield? i PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Is there any other discussion? MR. SATCHSHALE: What is your target date? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Our target date is July I ,: 23rd for bids, and if that were so of course the light would be in in the fall or before Christmas. i Our intention was to get it in before the Christmas season. It would be between the State, the Federal } Government, the railroad and everyone else. We think we have got a final plan everyone agrees on. That is why we are trying to work on it. MR. SATCHSHALE: The island would be secondary? ie PRESIDENT TEICHERT: We have to lay out the whole Eh intersection. This is what stopped us before. We I' tried to get these lights upgraded each time. The plan was rejected. We had to come back with the 30. whole thing. Mr. Monroe? MR. MONROE: I would like to ask a question. At the last meeting when the vote was taken for this approach, the July 23rd deadline, we dis- cussed the fact that for some reason or other the f Federal Government funds were not forthcoming. We have only two alternatives. One is to keep 1 trying for the Federal Government funds. The second E one would be to say $40,000 of Federal funds that we would get, approximately. I believe we are working for that. The other situation would be to say let's not $ wait any longer, let's get this thing done with Id Federal funds. However, does that preclude using a 1971 program? PRESIDENT TEICHERT: You mean NFT? 11'! MR. MONROE: NFT. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: No, as I understood it we 0 were going to take a look at this at the end of i E June. If nothing had been accomplished through the I 1 Federal application that we would want to go ahead with it with village NFT funds and get the job done, �1 31. rather than keep delaying it. We are ending a four or five year period. r) We are talking about a month or two. The difference is whether the Village will get forty thousand or pay a it themselves. MR. MONROE: If we keep pushing this off we will spend forty thousand in years to come and have much f1 more trouble, and hopefully we will avoid that. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: That is why we decided on the r; end of June. ' MR. MONROE: We are going to go or not go. PRESIDENT TEICHERT: Right. All right, will the i { Clerk please call the roll? MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Furst? ii MR. FURST: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Monroe? { MR. MONROE: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Reiter? MR. REITER: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Trustee Scholten? R4 MR. SCHOLTEN: Aye. MR. GOODMAN: Carried unanimously. PRESIDENT REICHERT: Motion carried. 4i 3t 32. I believe the purpose for the public hearing 0 now has been completed, and before we actually adjourn I would just like to announce to the Board that 11 the Golfers' Civic Association is having a meeting Thursday night at the Country Club at about nine 1 o'clock. They are going to discuss or have some dis- cussion concerning rezoning the property at Mount a Prospect Road. We would be happy if any Board members l could or would be in attendance. I am not sure that we can advise anything and I am not sure what any of us may or may not know. They are having a regular meeting, they are going to discuss that problem. The Country Club, Sky Room, about nine o'clock 1 Thursday night. The meeting starts at eight o'clock, 1 but they will be downstairs until about nine. Is there any other business, gentlemen? If not i the Chair will entertain a motion to adjourn. MR. SCHOLTEN: I so move. MR. AHERN: I second the motion. s6 PRESIDENT TEICHERT: All those in favor; opposed? The meeting is adjourned. 6 (Thereupon the meeting was adjourned.)