HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/26/2007 P&Z minutes 26-07
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
CASE NO. PZ-26-07
Hearing Date: July 26, 2007
PROPERTY ADDRESS:
1550 W. Dempster
PETITIONER:
Kelley Alcock, Whiteway Signs (Agent for Property Owner)
PUBLICATION DATE:
July 11, 2007
PIN NUMBER:
08-14-300-016-0000, 08-15-401-037-0000
REQUEST:
Sign Package - (4) Variations
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Richard Rogers, Chairperson
Joseph Donnelly
Leo Floros
Mary McCabe
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Marlys Haaland
Ronald Roberts
Keith Youngquist
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
Judith Connolly, AICP, Senior Planner
Ellen Divita, Deputy Director of Community Development
Jason Zawila, Long Range Planner
Joseph Levie, Planning Intern
INTERESTED PARTIES:
Kelly Alcock, Peter Lubin
Chairman Richard Rogers called the meeting to order at 7:35p.m. Leo Floros made a motion to approve the
minutes of the June 28, 2007 meeting and Mary McCabe seconded the motion. The minutes were approved 3-0,
with Joseph Donnelly abstaining. After hearing one previous case, Chairman Rogers introduced Case PZ-26-07,
a request for a Sign Variation at 1550 W. Dempster Road at 8:03 p.m.
Jason Zawila, Long Range Planner, stated that the Subject Property is located at the northwest comer of Dempster
Street and Busse Road, and consists of a 240-unit multi-family development on two lots of record. The
development includes a multiple building apartment complex zoned R4 multi-family development. The Subject
Property is bordered by the Commonwealth Edison right-of-way to the north, the B3 community shopping and the
B4 commercial corridor districts to the west, B3 community shopping district and unincorporated Cook County to
the south, and the R4 multi-family residence district to the east.
Mr. Zawila said the Petitioner is seeking approval to replace the existing apartment complex signage that was
installed more than 20 years ago. There are currently six legal non-conforming freestanding signage installed on
the Subject Property that would not be allowed under the current Sign Code. The Petitioner is proposing to
remove all freestanding signage and replace them with a sign package:
Sign A
The Petitioner is seeking approval to replace the existing signage located at the comer of Dempster Street
and Busse Road. The existing signage consists of two freestanding signs installed in a "V" configuration.
The total sign face for both signs measures 64 square feet.
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The Petitioner proposes to install a freestanding sign with a masonry base in approximately the same
location as the existing signage. The total proposed sign face measures 70.2 square feet and will be
internally illuminated. The existing landscaping around the area of sign will remain, which meets the
requirements of the Sign Code.
Sign B
The Petitioner is seeking approval to replace the existing freestanding sign located on Dempster Street,
east of the western most parking lot entrance. The existing sign face measures 32 square feet for each
side of the freestanding sign and encroaches into the required 5 foot setback.
The Petitioner proposes to install a new freestanding sign with a masonry base in the same location. The
total proposed sign face measures 70.2 square feet for each side of the freestanding sign and will be
internally illuminated. The proposed landscaping around the area around the sign meets the requirements
of the Sign Code.
Sign C
The Petitioner was approved to install a temporary leasing sign on Dempster Street. There is currently an
oversized directional sign in the location for Sign C. This sign will need to be removed, when the
temporary sign is installed. A variation was not required for this temporary leasing sign, because it meets
the Sign Code regulations.
Sign D
The Petitioner is seeking approval to replace the existing signage located at the Busse Road entrance to
the Subject Property. Each existing sign face measures 16.5 square feet.
The Petitioner proposes to remove the existing freestanding sign to the right side of the driveway
entrance. The existing sign on the left side of the driveway entrance will remain; however, a new
directional sign will be installed on the sign face of the freestanding sign. The existing posts will be
repainted with blue-gray enamel. The proposed sign area also measures 16.5 square feet.
Mr. Zawila stated that in order to approve the Petitioner's request, the Planning and Zoning Commission has to
find that the proposed sign package meets the criteria for a Variation because three sign faces each exceed the
maximum permitted area of 30 square feet, and one of the three signs is setback zero feet from the property line,
when five-feet is required. He said the required findings for sign variations are contained in Section 7.725 of the
Village of Mount Prospect Sign Code. He said the section contains specific findings, summarized as:
. The sign allowed under code regulations will not reasonably identify the business;
. The hardship is created by unique circumstances and not serve as convenience to the petitioner, and
is not created by the person presently having an interest in the sign or property;
. The variation will not be materially detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to other property or
improvements in the neighborhood;
. The variation will not impair visibility to the adjacent property, increase the danger of traffic
problems or endanger the public safety, or alter the essential character of the neighborhood; and be
in harmony with the spirit and intent of this Chapter.
Mr. Zawila summarized the required findings for each sign.
Sign A
The Sign Code limits the size ofthe sign face for residential developments, located on a secondary arterial
street, to 30 square feet. However, the Petitioner is seeking a Variation to permit a 70.2 square foot sign
face. The height and setback of the sign complies with the Sign Code regulations. The proposed signage
would exceed the sign face area of the current signage, which measures 64 square feet, by 6.2 square feet.
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The Sign Code does allow two freestanding signs to be located on the western lot of the Subject Property,
since the lot has two frontages, Dempster Street and Busse Road. Since the Petitioner is proposing to
install only one sign on the western lot of the Subject Property, when two freestanding signs would be
allowed, they are eligible for a 50% bonus. Staff discussed with the Petitioner, this option to install a 45
square foot freestanding sign which would be 50% greater than the 30 square foot maximum area allowed
in this location.
The Petitioner chose to submit the proposed sign with 70.2 square foot sign face instead. The 45 square
foot signage allowed at this location under the Sign Code regulations would reasonably identify the
apartment complex. Also, it is not clear what the hardship is that would warrant the proposed larger sign
face area. The Petitioner notes in the attached application that the sign conforms to their corporate image,
which appears to be based on convenience as opposed to a hardship, as defined by the Village Code.
Sign B
The Sign Code limits the size of the sign face for residential developments located on a secondary arterial
street to 30 square feet. However, the Petitioner is seeking a Variation to permit a 70.2 square feet sign
face for each side of the freestanding sign. The Petitioner is also seeking a Variation from the required
five-foot setback for a freestanding sign to have a zero-foot setback. Staff discussed with the Petitioner
that they had the option to install a 30 square foot sign, setback five feet from the property line. The
perimeter landscaping area for the parking lot measures fourteen-feet in width. This would still allow a
sufficient amount of space for the installation of a freestanding standing with the required landscaped area
around the base of the sign. The Petitioner will not need to lose any parking spaces, as noted in the
attached application, because of the installation of a freestanding sign.
The Petitioner chose the option to submit the proposed sign for this location instead. It is not clear what
the hardship is that would warrant the proposed sign face area or zero-foot setback. The signage allowed
at this location under the Sign Code regulations would reasonably identify the apartment complex.
Additionally the proposed sign will be internally illuminated and another larger freestanding sign is
allowed on the western lot of the Subject Property.
Sign D
The sign area for the proposed directional sign measures 16.5 square feet. The Sign Code limits the size
of a directional sign to 10 square feet. However, the Petitioner is seeking a Variation to permit a 16.5
square foot directional sign. Staff discussed with the Petitioner that they had the option to mount a 10
square foot directional sign on the existing stone gates. Petitioner also has the option to install similar
square foot directional signs at each entrance to the Subject Property, better informing the public to all
entrances of the apartment complex.
The Petitioner chose the option to submit the proposed signage for this location instead. It is not clear
what the hardship is that would warrant the proposed sign face area. The Variation appears to be based
on convenience as opposed to a hardship, as defined by the Village Code. The Petitioner is proposing to
overlay the sign face on an existing freestanding sign that is not permanently affixed to the stone gate.
The sign is attached to two wooden posts that could be removed if new directional signage were installed
on the gate.
Mr. Zawila stated that the Petitioner's requests would not adversely impact the neighborhood or the adjacent
properties, and the signage will not detrimental to the public welfare or other properties in the neighborhood.
However, the signage permitted by code would reasonably identify the Subject Property. Also, this request is
different from a previous request approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission whereby the Mansions of
Mount Shire wanted a 68 square foot sign face, with frontage on Golf Road, for only one freestanding sign on the
property. Traffic on Golf Road travels at a higher rate of speed; therefore larger text and a larger sign face would
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read easier. The size of the proposed sign face for that request was smaller than the existing freestanding sign for
that property.
Mr. Zawila said in this case, the requests are based on convenience and the Petitioner has several code compliant
sign options that would reasonably identify the apartment complex. The apartment complex is also located at an
intersection with a four way stop light that would allow traffic to easily read the signage, unlike the Mansions of
Mount Shire, where no traffic control device was located along the Golf Road frontage of the property.
Mr. Zawila stated that based on this analysis, the proposed signage requests do not meet the standards for a Variation.
No hardship has been presented that would warrant the proposed signage and the requests appear to be based on
convenience. Staff presented several options to the Petitioner, which would meet the Sign Code regulations for their
sign package for the Subject Property. The signage allowed under the Sign Code for this location would reasonably
identify the apartment complex. He said Staff recommends that the Planning & Zoning Commission DENY the
following motion:
"To approve the Variations to allow:
. a 70.2 square foot sign face for "Sign A" as shown on the Petitioner's exhibit;
. a 70.2 square foot sign face for "Sign C" as shown on the Petitioner's exhibit;
. a 16.5 square foot sign face for "Sign D" as shown on the Petitioner's exhibit; and
. a 0' setback for "Sign C" as shown on the Petitioner's exhibit."
He said the Planning & Zoning Commission's decision is final for this case.
Chairman Richard Rogers asked when the original signs were placed. Mr. Zawila said there was a sign permit
from 1986 for the sign at the comer of Dempster and Busse. Staff could not confirm installation of the others, but
due to the similarity in design, it has been estimated that the stalls were all installed at the same time.
Chairman Rogers asked what is allowed at the location of "sign A." Mr. Zawila stated that a 30 square foot sign
is allowed, and the Petitioner would be eligible for a 50% bonus if there were no other signage on this frontage.
Chairman Rogers asked if all of the signs would be allowed at 30 square feet. Mr. Zawila confirmed. Chairman
Rogers said the Petitioner is asking for oversized signs, almost double the allowable size, at each location.
There was general discussion regarding the lot lines and street frontages. Joseph Donnelly asked if major arterial
street frontages are allowed larger signs. Mr. Zawila said signs on major arterial streets such as Golf Road and
Route 83, are allowed at 35 square feet; neither of the street frontages are on major arterial streets for this
property. Mr. Donnelly asked if there are time limits for the sign illumination. Mr. Zawila stated the sign must be
turned off at II :00 p.m.
Chairman Rogers swore in Kelly Alcock of Whiteway Signs at 451 Kingston Court, Mount Prospect, Illinois and
Peter Lubin, attorney for Alpine Apartments. Ms. Alcock stated that the owner is working to improve the image
of their properties located in the Village. She said the sign at Mansions of Mount Shire have significantly
improved leasing at that location and that 83 square foot sign was approved by this Commission and included an
electronic message board. She said this variation is for oversized signs and a zero-foot setback. She said this
request will actually decrease the total sign-face square footage on the property from 200 square feet to 163
square feet. She stated the proposed signs will have better readability and a more modem look. They also intend
to update the landscaping. She said that if the signs were reduced to staff's recommendation, the readability would
be reduced.
Ms. Alcock stated that the new signage ties directly to the new corporate image. This image has been
incorporated into stationary, advertising, and staff uniforms. The owner would like to continue this corporate
image into the proposed signage.
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There was general discussion regarding the letter height and readability of the proposed signage. Ms. Alcock
gave a brief summary of the proposed signage package and each location for the Alpine Apartments. She stated
that the new proposal is actually reducing the total sign-face square footage and she would like the Commission to
approve their sign package.
Mr. Lubin gave a brief summary of the reduction in square footage of the whole sign package. Chairman Rogers
stated that the Village's Sign Code is not arbitrary; that research and surveys were conducted to provide a uniform
appearance throughout the Village. He said that a program was initiated to have non-conforming signs removed
or replaced and he is not sure how the existing signage was allowed to remain up. He stated that the proposed
sign package is requesting quite a large variation from what is currently allowed by Code.
Ms. Alcock showed the Commission exhibits comparing a code-compliant sign versus the proposed oversize
signs. She said the readability would be considerably reduced and she would like to reach a compromise with the
Village. The Petitioner and the Commission had general discussion on reducing the sign package and changing
the sign locations.
Chairman Rogers called for additional questions or comments from the audience. There were no additional
questions. He said a compromise needs to be reached on this sign package. Ellen Divita, Deputy Director of
Community Development suggested reviewing the exhibits of each sign.
Leo Floros made a motion to amend the previous motion to approve the following Variations:
. To allow a freestanding sign with a 70.2' square foot sign face, in the location and
constructed as shown on the attached Exhibit A; and
. To allow an additional directional sign face with a 10.0' square foot sign face in the location
as shown on the attached Exhibit B.
The Planning & Zoning Commission grants these Variations subject to:
. The removal of all non-conforming signs from the Subject Property as shown on the attached
Exhibit C.
. The withdrawal of Permit #07-1346 for a temporary/for lease sign as shown on the attached
Exhibit D.
Mary McCabe seconded the motion. Chairman Rogers closed the public hearing and called for the vote.
UPON ROLL CALL: A YES: Donnelly, Floros, McCabe, Rogers
NAYS: None
Motion was approved 4-0
After hearing four additional cases, Joseph Donnelly made a motion to adjourn at 9:53 p.m., seconded by Mary
McCabe. The motion was approved by a voice vote and the meeting was adjourned.
Stacey Dunn, Community Development
Administrative Assistant
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