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COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
MAY 109 1988
The meeting, was called to order at 7:34 p.m. Present at .,the meeting were: Mayor
Carolyn Krause, Trustees R,alph Arthur, Gerald Farley, Leo Floros, Norma
Murauskis, Geo'r,ge, Van G,eern and Theodore Wattenberg. Also present at the
0 Village Manager John Fulton Dixon, Assistant Village Mana,,ger
rn ee t,j n g, `were .
Michael Janonis, Assistant: to the Villav Manager -Special Projects Michael Steklac,
Chief of Police Ronald Pavlock, Deputy C,h,,,I,ef,s of Police Thomas Daley and Ronald
R-Ichardson,, Director of Finance David Je
pson, Human Services Administrator Nancy
Morgan, members of the Business District Development, and Redevelopment
Commission and Executive Director of the Mount, Prospect Chamber of Commerce
Janet Hansen. Also present were three persons from the print media.
I1* MINUTES
Trustee Ralph Arthur indicated that at the bottom of page three of the Minutes of
the meeting of April 26, that a statement attributed to him was more correctly
attributed to Trustee Farley and requested that the change be, made. Subject to
that change, the Committee accepted the Minutes of the Committee of the Whole
meeting for April 26, 198810
111. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD
There were no citizens present at the meeting wishing to be heard and the
Committee moved on to the next item of business.
IV. ARCHITECTURAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING
Chief of Police Ronald Pavlock reviewed with Committee members the recommenda-
tion of the Village consultant regarding the rehabilitation of the Village's jail cells.
Chief Pavlock indicated that, as currently configured, the cells do not meet local,
State or Federal regulations and were not within the criteria established for
accreditation. Chief Pavlock further stated that even with the proposed
reconfiguration of the cells, the Village still would not be able to meet the State's
requirement of 50 square feet per cell without extensive remodeling work.
However, he indicated that this deficiency should not affect the Village's ability to
achieve accreditation.
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Village Manager, John Fulton Dixon indicated that the proposed remodeling, which
would total song, e, $25,310 was an interim solution to the jail cell problem.
Mr. Dixon indicated that it was his hope that the proposed work would buy the
Village additional time so that any extensive remod,eling of the jail cells could take
place a,f ter the municipal Court Room had been vacated and the Village had an
rements for the building on a comprehensive
opportunIty to study the space requi
basis*
Discussion among Committee members resulted in the following comments:
Trustee Ralph Arthur inquired as to the need for a separate juvenile cell as part of
this remodeling. The Village's consultant indicated that such a cell at this point in
time was impractical but that any future remodeling should provide for a
segregated juvenile cello
Trustee Theodore Wattenberg indicated that what was really needed was a
comprehensive study of the entire building to determine if the facility was
adequately meeting the needs of the Police and Fire Departments.
Trustee Gerald Farley inquired as to the useful life of these improvements,
Mr. Dixon indicated that the proposed re mode Iiing was a, stop -gap, measure designed
to sa,tisfy the State authorities and to allow the Potic e Department ,to proceed with
accreditation. Trustee Farley suggested that the, Village might attempt 'to continue
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seeking waivers from the State and tie any cell reModefing, In wi"th a comprehens"
review of the Public Safety' Building. TrustFa
ee rley also asked if the Village 'was,
subject to any fines or penalties for failing to comply with the State regulati,,onso,
The consultant responded that he was not aware of ,,any, however, he, 'felt that It
was possible that the State would require the cells to be shut down.
Trustee George Van Gee asked what benefit would accrue to the Village if the
Police Department were to become accredited. Chief Pavlock responded that the
benefits at this time were rather subjective except for the fact that it could prove
beneficial in a lawsuit brought against the Police Department*
Trustee Leo Flo ros asked if there was any monetary gain from accreditation.
Again, Chief Pavlock responded that it was difficult to say what the short-term
benefits were to the Village,*,
After further discussion, it was the consensus of the Committee to proceed with
the proposed remodeling of the jail cells.
PALWAUKEE AIRPORT PART 150 NOISE COMPATIBILITY STUDY
Palwaukee Airport Manager, Mr. Stewart, reviewed, wl'th Committee members, the
Part 150 Noise Compatibility Plan for Palwaukee Airport. He, indicated that the
purpose of the Plan was to, identi"I'y points of conflict b�etween the AiTport and
surrounding residential neighborhoods with regard to noise. The Study recommended
ie manating from the Airport as, well as
cert ain measures be taken to, reduce no" se
proposing certain restrictions on future development in areas surrounding the
Airport*
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Discussion among Committee members resulted in the following comments:
Mayor Carolyn Krause questioned Mr. Stewart regarding the Noise Overlay Zoning
Ordinance proposed as part of the Study. The Mayor wanted clarification as to
whether the restrictions could be limited to new construction only or whether they
would apply to existing housing that later sought remodeling or expansion,
Mr. Stewart responded that it was his belief that it was up to each municipality to
modify the Ordinance if it so chose. It was suggested that the Village attorney be
consulted regarding this particular point. The Mayor also indicated she was against
having the Noise Overlay Maps recorded with the title to the property. She felt
this would have adverse impact upon property values. In conclusion, the Mayor
indicated she supported some aspects of the Part 150 Study and suggested that the
Board voice its support for measures that the Airport itself could take to limit
noise. Mr. Stewart responded that the Airport had committed to adopting those
recommendations.
Trustee Ralph Arthur indicated that he was against providing for a non -suit
covenant as part of any change in the Zoning Ordinances, He felt that such a
restriction was an unwarranted infringement upon a homeowner's rights.
Trustee Farley asked that the report be accepted and taken under advisement until
such time as the O'Hare Airport Report regarding noise had been issued. He felt
that the Village should look at the two reports and take consistent action regarding
each.
The Mayor responded that the Board should take action on each one of the Reports
separately because of the differing impact and the likelihood of success in bringing
about changes in airport operations.
After further discussion, it was the consensus of the Committee to accept the
Report and asked that the Village Man ' ager draft a letter to the Airport indicating
its support for the noise reduction recommendations that could be adopted by the
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Airport and that it would further consider other aspects of the Study.
SENIOR TAXI SERVICE
Committee members reviewed the recommendations of Human Services Director
Nancy Morgan regarding changes to the Senior Taxi Program. The proposed
changes to the rate structure were initiated by American Taxi Company because
they claimed that the current fare structure was inequitable to their drivers.
Village Manager John Dixon reviewed with Committee members his dealings with
the Pace agency who currently provides a partial subsidy for the Senior Taxi
Program. He indicated that Pace had issued new regulations requiring that a
different physical examination report be filled out by the examining doctor. Pace
indicated that they would withdraw funding until their new requirements had been
met. A request to American Taxi to send their drivers back for a re-examination
using the new form was met with refusal. American Taxi felt that the changed
requirement was unfair and burdensome despite the fact that Pace indicated a
willingness to reimburse the drivers for any additional expense.
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mber's indicated that they were d-spleased with the
Discussi,on among Committee me I o n was, , taken on a
post,tion taken by Pace and concurred that before any actio
revised fare structure that Pace, Board members should be contacted' and that a
change in policy should be sought.
VII. TIF STUDY AREA #2 RECOMMENDATION
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Jack Pettigrew of the consulting firm Trkla, Pettigrew,, Allen and Payne, gave a
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brief overview of Tax Increment Financing and the eligionity of Study Area #2,
which is bounded on the east by Main Street, on the north by Central and on the
south by Northwest Highway*
Hat Predovich, Chairman of the Business District Development and" Redevelopment
Cow Miss 'ton, reviewed with, Committee members the recommendation of BDDRC
resulting from a comprehensive study of the area look'Ing, at its potential for
redevelopment. In summ,ary,,, Mr. Predovich recommended that the Village Board
take:
*An aggressive posture toward the redevelopment of the triangle;
*Lean toward redevelopment of the greatest part of the triangle that
was economically feasible;
"Retain current businesses where possible;
OObtain input from property owners and businesses in the area;
"Take a long-range view of redevelopment in the area.
Mr. Predovich indicated that the next ste,pss in the process were to inform and
educate Interestgroups and to schedule a working session with the Village Board to
further review the Commission's recommendationMr. Predovich also indicated
that a dialogue should be initiated with affected 'taxing bodies and the Chamber of
Commerce. Finally, Mr. Predovich asked for directl.on from the Village Board to
continue its work in Study. Area #20
Executive Director for the Mount Prospect Chamber of Commerce, Janet Hansen,
read a letter issued by the Chamber Board Indicating support for the process
initiated by the Downtown Commission.
There, was extensive discussion among Committee members regardl In the
recommendatfon* Various quest',ions were asked regarding the percentage of each
type, of propo,sed use for the area, as well as, how such Use,s would be configured
wtthiin the triangle* Thi
Further discussion centered around the financial data that had been generated to
date regarding each of the proposed development scenarios. Committee members
expressed concern that the numbers presented indicated that redevelopment of the
entire triangle would result in a substantial deficit. In response, Mr. Predovich
indicated that the current numbers were very rough and were provided for illustra-
tive purposes only. He pointed out that many variables needed to be considered in
finalizing a redevelopment plan for the area. He indicated that cost and
profitability were major concerns of the Commission and that it was the consensus
of BDDRC that any plan for redevelopment be self --sustaining. As a result,
Mr. Predovich indicated that as final numbers were developed, it could very well be
that the entire parcel could not profitably be redeveloped at this time.
Mayor Carolyn Krause expressed reluctance about creating a second TIF area. She
indicated that the Board and staff should focus on TIF Area #1 and set priorities
regarding future redevelopment in that area. Specifically, the Mayor indicated an
interest in pursuing redevelopment in Target Area D. Additionally, the Mayor
indicated that she was concerned with the adverse impact that the creation of a
new TIF District would have on District 57.. She suggested that the Village focus
on redevelopment of the old Public Works building and that a smaller District be
configured which would include Northwest Electric, Prospect Auto Body and other
adjacent properties. She indicated that an ideal timetable would be to finalize
plans in 1988 and begin work in 1989.
Trustee George Van Geem expressed an interest in further pursuing the
recommendation of the Downtown Commission and saw merit in the development of
an overall Redevelopment Plan for the triangle.
Further discussion among Committee members resulted in a direction to the Village
Manager to formulate staff recommendations regarding future plans for TIF Area #1
and that preparation be made for the working session between the Village Board
and members of the Business District Development and Redevelopment Commission.
VIII. MANAGER'S REPORT
No report was given by the Village Manager.
IX ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Trustee Ted Wattenberg asked that he be provided with a monthly report regarding
the status of the suit filed against the Northwest Municipal Conference and the
Balef ill Site.
X. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Committee of the Whole, the
meeting was adjourned at 10:31 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
MICHAEL E* JANONIS
Assistant Village Manager
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Village of Mount Proispect
Mount Prospect, Illinois
INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
TO:
John Fulton Dixon, Village Manager
FROM: David C. Jepson, Finance Director
DATE, May 19, 198-F.*e
SUBJECT: Authorization for 198B/89 Bond Issues
In the 1988/89 fiscal year, the Village has anticipated two debt issues:
1) $350,000 for the property owner s share of Special Service Area No. 6, and
2) $500,000 for financing the Prospect Meadows Sewer Improvement Project. The
bond issue for Special Service Area No. 6 is expected to be for 20 years and
will be financed by a special service area tax. The bond issue for the
Prospect Meadows Sewer Improvement is expected to be for 10 years and will be
financed from the Water Fund, with approximately 50/101 of the debt service
provided by a sewer surcharge on the water customers in the Prospect Meadows
Sewer District.
Interest rates have been rising recently, and most indications are that they
will continue to increase over the coming months. Because of this, I believe
it is in the best interests of the Village to proceed with these financing
issues as quickly as possible. I have discussed the current conditions with
Ron Norene and he has also recommended that we proceed as soon as possible.
The amounts being considered are relatively small amounts of debt and the
Village has the option of trying to market the issues locally or to go to the
financial markets. Mr. Norene has recommended that we go to the financial
market with a competitive sale for the $500,000 issue and for a negotiated
sale for the the $350,000 issue. His principal reason is that the $500,000
issue will be a double Aa rated general obligation (G. 0.) issue and will be
very attractive. In a recent offering, the Village of River Forest sold a
$550,000 issue that received 16 bids. The $350,000 issue will not be as
attractive as a G. 0. issue but will be supported by the properties in Special
Service Area No. 6. Because the issue will not be rated, he believes we will
receive a better price through a negotiated sale.
I asked Ron Norene what his fee as financial advisor would be for these issues
and the total fees that would be associated with the bond sales. He stated
that his minimum fee is $4,500 per issue, but that he would reduce that fee to
$3,500 for the $500,000 issue and $3,000 for the $350,000 issue. In addition,
a legal opinion for each issue will be needed that will cost between $2,000-
$2,500 per issue. Other costs would include updating our Moody's rating,
printing bonds, publishing an official statement and notices, and bond
registrar costs. Mr. Norene's estimate of total costs are: $9,000 - $10,000
for the $500,000 sale and $5,500 - $6,000 for the $350,000 sale.
John Fulton Dixon
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Authorization for 19BB/B9 Bond Issues
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The primary advantages in using a financial adv'isor in these debt issues are
that a much broader market is solicit,ed, the appropriate informon is
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provided to the rating agency, the bidders perce,ive a more professi"onal sale
and generally the sale can be completed on a more timely basis. An
illustration of the potential savings that: could be realized can be seen from
the following examples: in a $500,0009 10 year issue, a reduction in the
interest rate of 1/41/0' results in a savings of $8,500 over the life of the
issue; and in a $350,000, 20 year issue, a 1/4'/0 interest rate reduction
amounts to $13,300 over the life of the bonds.
In reg,ard to the ng, of these issues Mr. Norene stated that he could
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obtain the rating and market the @ bonds with a sale scheduled for
June 21, 1988. THe Special Service Area bonds would also be scheduled for
sale on June1988. For the Special Service Area bondsq the actual market
rates on June 21 would be used as a basis for evaluating the negotiated rate.
it is my recommendation that we accept the proposal from R. V. Norene and
Assneiates and that Lewis Greenbaum of Katten, Muchin and Zavis be appointed
as bond counsel for the above bond issues. It is my further recommendation
that we approve June 219 1988 as the date of the proposed sales*
A copy of Ron Norene's agreement is attachede
R. V NORENE & Associates, Inc.
NANCIAL ADVISORY SERVICES PROP
FOR THE
ILLA6E OF MOUNT PROSPECT, ILLII
Lake & Waukegan Office Center, Suite 215 • 1701 Lake Avenue • Glenview, IL 60025 • 312-998-9848
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May 20, 1988
President and Board of
Trustees
Village of Mount Prospect
Village Hall
100 South Emerson Street
Mount Prospect, Illinois 60056
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We understand that you propose to issue $5005000 non -referendum
general obligation water bonds and special service area bonds with both
financings to be accomplished on an expedited basis. We are pleased to
offer our financial advisory services to establish a financing program
and successfully market and deliver the necessary bonds* An outline of
the steps we feel will be necessary in connection with each sale
follows but, in any event, our services will be complete and will be
designed to reduce the financing costs of the project and to enhance
the Village's standing in the financial community*
1* We will immediately familiarize ourselves with the project
through meetings with your staff and your attorneys and based
thereon establish a tentative financing timetable so that
close coordination will be ensured in the legal and financial
aspects of the financing.
2. We will submit estimates to you of the annual debt service
cost and will make recommendations regarding the financial
plan including traditional financing vehicles and, where
applicable, the use of bond anticipation financing, variable
rate bonds, etc. These recommendations will be based upon our
review of the projected tax increment available for debt
service, your existing indebtedness and their authorizing
ordinances, your future bonding needs and the municipal bond
market.
3. We will submit recommended debt retirement schedules for your
approval. Based upon the agreed upon financing plan, we will
meet with civic groups as you request to explain the financing
impact.
4. We will review the existing reports of your other consultants
and, where applicable, make recommendations regarding changes
therein to ensure financial feasibility.
5. We will specify financial provisions including prior redemp-
tion rights, the flow-of-fundsg and the issuance of additional
debt, to be included in the legal proceedings for a most
Lake & Waukegan Office Center, Suite 216 * 1701 Lake Avenue 9 Glenview, IL 80028a 312-998-9848
R.V. NORENE &Associates, Inc.
attractive and successful financing. These provisions will be
designed to assure the Village of its ability to complete the
financing of all of its future needs,
6 We will research the financial information and economic data
bearing upon you as an issuer and the successful marketing of
the bonds and will assemble same, together with the details of
the bonds, into an attractive Official Statement which will
allow you to satisfy the market's current requirements for
full disclosure. Each Official Statement will be submitted to
you for approval prior to its distribution.
7. We will advise you of the marketing procedures and
specifically recommend the time, place and method of
conducting the bid opening and sale of the bonds,
8.When a bond bid opening date has been established, we will:
ao arrange for the publication of the notice(s) of
sale in the national financial press.
b. make a recommendation relative to the advisability of
obtaining an investment rating and, if you elect to
request one, we shall make application on your behalf
including preparation of the necessary information.,
c. recommend whether you should make application for
municipal bond insurance and, if it is decided to
make such application, we shall submit the necessary
information.
d. distribute the Official Statement to a broad list of
prospective bidders, investment advisors and
investing.institutions.
e. solicit additional bidders by contacting prospective
bidders in advance of the sale to ensure that there
are no unanswered questions regarding the issue.
9., We will attend the bid opening where we will conduct the sale,
check the bids for accuracy and advise you of the accepta-
bility of the best bid received.
10. We will assist in and coordinate all details leading up to the
delivery of"the bonds, including the printing of the bonds and
calculating the amount due at delivery.
11. Upon completion of
compute a record of
provide you with a
financing.
the delivery of your bonds, we shall
payments of principal and interest and
convenient reference summary of the
We shall have no interest in the purchase or resale of your
obligat u'),ns nor shall, we, engage in any, other activity wh,&ch may
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constitute a confL71c,t of 'Interest with pierf621,)mance of our services for
you. We will not obl"to you for any expenses except with your
approval,
, 64 wwwom I "I'll 11 R. V. NOREN E & Associates,
You will be responsible for the fees of your attorneys, bond
counsel, engineers /architects /planners and are to pay all of your
ordinary expenses including advertising, printing and distribution of
Official Statements) the purchase (if applicable) of a rating for the
bonds, the purchase (if applicable) of municipal bond insurance, bond
registrar/paying agent fees and printing and delivery of the bonds. We
will assist you by arranging for the advertisement of the sale in the
national financial press and, where applicable, will obtain competitive
bids on the necessary printing*
For our services we are to be paid a fee which shall include our
own ordinary expenses) our necessary travel expenses between Mount
Prospect/Glenview/Chicago and our services in full which, in addition
to those outlined in this Agreement, shall include all necessary and
usual functions to complete each financing. In the event it is deemed
necessary to travel to New York City in connection with the Village's
application for an investment rating, we are to be reimbursed for our
out-of-pocket expenses and travel costs4p
Our fee for the two issues shall be as follows: $500,000 General
Obligation Water Bonds - $3,500; and $350,000 Special Service Area
Bonds - $3,0000
Our fee is to be due at the time of the award of the low bond bid
and payable upon receipt of the proceeds of the issue. If for any
reason no bond award is made, no fee is due.
Respectfully submitted,
President
R. V. Norene & Associates, Inc.
RVN/lo
The above proposal accepted this day of 1988.
You are instructed to proceed,,
Attest:
ViUage Clerk
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ViZI,age President
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TO: John Fulton Dixon, Village Manager
FROM: David C. Jepson, Finance Director
DATE. May 20, 1988
SUBJECT: Police and Fire Pension Funds Actuarial Valuations
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Attached are the Actuarial Valuations for the Village's Police and Firemen's
Pension Funds as of May 1, 1987. The valuations are based upon information as of
May 1, 1987 and include the Village's contribution requirements for the 87/88
fiscal year.
The reports each contain the following four sections:
I Selection of Assumptions
11 Plan Valuations and Plan Information
III Actuarial Assumptions and Methods
IV Financial Disclosures
From the information contained in the valuation reports, it can be seen that the
Village's two plans are in very good financial condition. The Police Pension Fund
is funded at a 127'/0" level and the Firemen's Pension Fund is funded at a 146/00
level. Following is a summary of the assets and accrued liabilities of the two
plans:
Accrued of eo
Assets Liabilities Funded
Police Pension Fund $1195729929 $99106,927 127/0
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Firemen's Pension Fund 1392919300 99101,623 146/0
The Village's contribution requirement for the 87/88 fiscal year for the Police
Fund is $8,646 and is $-0- for the Fire Fund. The report indicated that the
contribution for the Police Pension Fund will gradually increase from 0.40/0" of
current salaries in 87/88 ($8,646) to an estimated 9.31/0" in 2020. The contribution
for " the Fire Pension Fund was $-0- in 87/88 and is expected to be $-0- for the
next ten years. After that time it is expected to increase gradually up to about
11-0/'10/ of current salaries in 2020.
John Fulton Dixon
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Police and Fire Pension Funds Actuarial Valuations
Following are some of the noteworthy items in the valuation reports:
Report Section
Under the discussion of the Selection of Assumptions on page 3, it is
mentioned that the most important assumption is investment return. Over
the past 5 years, the Village has averaged a 15.21/0' return, including
29,00.0" in 1986/87, in the Police Pension Fund and a 14.6'/G" return,
including 26.3'/`l0/ in 1986/87, in the Firemen's Pension Fund. During this
same five year period, total assets in the Police Pension Fund increased
from $4,732,705 to $11,572,929, or 145'/0', and from $5,552,016 to
$13,291,300, or 139.10' in the Firemen's Pension Fund.
The assets in each fund were invested in securities averaging an 8,60/0"
return on 5/1/87, and as a result a fairly conservative 890' assumption was
selected.
The second most important assumption is in regard to salary increases. A
5.25.10' annual increase was used in the valuations.
Ii Plan Assets, Accrued Liabilities and the Net Contribution due from the
Village are found on pages 6 and 7. The balance of this section
includes.
Projection of Benefit Payments
Census Data
Membership Data
Statement of Revenues and Expenses
Summary of Statutory Provisions
It should be pointed out that the Summary of Statutory Provisions
includes additional benefits that were granted in January 1987. On a
statewide basis, these benefit increases have increased normal costs an
average of 3.4.4 for all Police Pension Funds and 10.91/0' for all Firemen's
Pension Funds.
III The Assumptions used in the valuations are listed, including the 810"
investment return, 5.251° salary increases, and the other assumptions for
withdrawal, disability and retirement.
On page 17 is an illustration of the various probabilities that may occur
for an individual hired at age 25.
John Fulton Dixon
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Police and Fire Pension Funds Actuarial Valuations
IV This section includes the financial disclosures that are required by the
Government Accounting Standards Board. The information in this section
is prepared using a different actuarial method than the previous
sections. The previous sections use the "Entry Age Normal" actuarial
method and this section uses a "Unit Credit" actuarial method. The basic
difference is that the Entry Age Normal method calculates the accrued
liability as the present value of all the normal costs which should have
been paid up to the valuation date. The Unit Credit method is a measure
of the present value of pension benefits, adjusted for the effects of
projected salary increases estimated to be payable in the future, as a
result of employee service to date. The net effect is an estimated
funding level of 107/1' rather than 127'/0" in the Police Pension Fund and a
level of 118'/0' rather than 146/10' in the Firemen's Pension Fund.
Any time a pension plan achieves full -funding (100,001) 1 it is a significant attain-
ment. On a statewide basis, 44 Police Pension Funds out of 297 had achieved
full -funding as of December 31, 1986 and 108 out of 230 Fire Pension Funds were
100/0a/
funded as of that date. The average level of funding for all Police Funds is
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O.C1 and 76/10' for all Fire Pension Funds. A continued level of full -funding for a
pension plan is even more noteworthy in light of the additional benefits granted
in 1987.
The advantages of full -funding are mutually beneficial to both the plan parti-
cipants and Village residents, With full -funding, participants can be assured of
assets to pay pensions for both current and future retirees. Village residents
benefit because of a lower tax levy. There has been no tax levy required for the
Fire Pension Fund since 1983 and based upon the actuarial report, it is estimated
that no levy will be required for the next ten years. For the Police Pension
Fund, the tax levy has been reduced from a peak of $371,454 in 1982 to $1039000 in
19B7. Based upon the attached report, it appears that the amount can be reduced
over the next several years,
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