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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
CASE NO. PZ-05-15
Hearing Date: March 26, 2015
PROPERTY ADDRESS:
1050 Mt. Prospect Plaza
PETITIONER
: Ross Dress for Less Inc., c/o James Babowice
Trobe, Babowice & Associates, LLC
PUBLICATION DATE:
March 11, 2015
PIN NUMBER:
03-35-301-058-0000
REQUESTS:
Variation-Window Sign Area
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Sharon Otteman
William Beattie
Keith Youngquist
Jeanne Keuter
Joseph Donnelly, Chair
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Agostino Filippone
Thomas Fitzgerald
Norbert Mizwicki
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
Consuelo Andrade, Senior Planner
Janet Saewert, Neighborhood Planner
INTERESTED PARTIES
: Ross Dress for Less Inc., c/o James Babowice
Trobe, Babowice & Associates, LLC
Chairman Donnelly called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Commissioner Beattie made a motion to
approve the minutes of the February 26, 2015 meeting; Commissioner Youngquist seconded the motion.
The minutes were approved 4-0 with one Commissioner abstaining. After hearing two (2) additional cases
Chairman Donnelly introduced Case PZ-05-15, 1050 Mt. Prospect Plaza and stated it was Planning and
Zoning Commission final.
Ms. Andrade stated the Petitioner for PZ-05-15 is seeking a variation to allow window signs to cover
100% of the window surface area for Ross Dress for Less, which occupies the tenant space known as
1050 Mt. Prospect Plaza.
Ms. Andrade explained the window signs currently occupy 100% of the window surface area of four
aluminum storefront systems that are part of the Ross Dress for Less storefront, which is against Village
Sign regulations that allow no more than 40% coverage of the window surface area.
Ms. Andrade stated permits to install window signs are not required; however all signs must comply with
the sign regulations. The Petitioner would like to keep the existing signs and is seeking variation
approval.
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Ms. Andrade summarized the standards for sign variations as the following:
The sign allowed under code regulations will not reasonably identify the business;
The hardship is created by unique circumstances and will not serve as a convenience to the
petitioner, and is not created by the person presently having an interest in the sign or property;
The variation will not be materially detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to other
property or improvements in the neighborhood; and
The variation will not impair visibility to the adjacent property, increase the danger of traffic
problems or endanger the public safety, or alter the essential character of the neighborhood; and
be in harmony with the spirit and intent of this Chapter.
Ms. Andrade stated per the Petitioner, the window signs are part of national design package for Ross
Dress for Less and states the window surface area is extensive and was pre-existing at the time the Ross
Dress for Less occupied the Subject Property. The window signs occupy 57.2% of the overall window
surface area of the storefront. The window signs are meant to protect inventory and screen storage areas
from public view in an aesthetically pleasing way that provides an alternative to a solid wall or black
covering.
Ms. Andrade stated Staff understood the window signs occupy only 57.2% of the overall window surface
area that makes up the storefront, but the sign regulations are based on each individual window surface
area. The physical characteristics of this property are not unique and do not justify the need for window
signs to cover 100% of the window surface area. The desire to be consistent with the national design
package for Ross Dress for Less, to screen the storage areas, and the presence of an expansive window
surface area do not constitute hardships. Other commercial storefronts in the Village also consist of
numerous windows and are national retailers. Therefore, the variation request is based on convenience.
Ms. Andrade stated that Staff found that the standards for a sign variation have not been met. Based on
these findings, Staff recommends that the Planning & Zoning Commission make a motion to adopt staff’s
deny
findings as the findings of the Planning and Zoning Commission and the following motion:
"To approve:
A Variation to allow window signs to cover 100% of the window surface area, as shown in the elevation
plan prepared by Bill Moore & Associates dated 06/12/12 for 1050 Mt. Prospect Plaza.”
The Planning and Zoning Commission’s decision is final for this case.
Commissioner Youngquist asked when the signs were installed.
Ms. Andrade responded since window signs do not require permits, staff did not have the date the
window signs were installed. Village is currently contacting businesses in violation in order to bring
them up to sign code compliance.
Chairman Donnelly swore in Jim Babowice, attorney for Ross Dress for Less, 404 W. Water, Waukegan
Illinois.
Mr. Babowice showed a photograph that was photo-shopped depicting what the store front would look
like with blacked out windows instead of the current pictures.
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Chairman Donnelly swore in the district manager, Christopher Bice 415 Howard St. Evanston, Illinois.
Mr. Bice explained that Ross Dress for Less has been there for two (2) years and moved into the space
that was formally a Michaels Arts and Crafts. He further explained that the window coverings aren’t used
for marketing purposes but to mainly help make the building aesthetically pleasing. The coverings help
shield storage space and fixtures.
Mr. Babowice stated that the “window covering” isn’t used for marketing and indicated the Ross Dress
for Less logo is very small in comparison to the size of the covering. He stated the logo can be removed
depending on the decision of the board.
Mr. Babowice stated they believe the “window covering” is much more appealing than the alternative
black-out window covering scenario.
Mr. Babowice continued to explain that the purpose of the “window covering” doesn’t match the
definition of the sign listed in the Village Code.
Commissioner Beattie stated that he believes the “window coverings” are signs and asked the Petitioner if
they have come up with any other alternatives other than the black out windows.
Mr. Babowice stated that another alternative would be to drop down the images and have the top portion
of the windows blacked-out; by doing so, this will decrease the coverage to approximately sixty-three
percent (63%).
Chairman Donnelly stated the graphics used in the wall coverings represent products sold in the store,
which by definition is a sign.
Mr. Bice stated that the graphics aren’t of specific items sold in the store but are representative of the
types of items that are sold.
Commissioner Youngquist verified that one hundred 100% of the window area has fixtures behind it.
Commissioner Otteman asked when the signs were installed.
Mr. Bice stated they have been in the windows since they opened two (2) years ago.
Mr. Babowice stated that the alternative option to drop the images down and just have a blacked out band
along the top would bring the store into compliance.
Commissioner Beattie commented that he feels the sign variations have been very prominent in the past
few years and that the board has been very careful to keep the decisions consistent and as close to the sign
code as possible. He also commented that the graphics on the windows is not something the Village wants
to allow or set precedence to.
Mr. Babowice stated that he understood the concern and thinks the alternative discussed earlier will be a
good compromise because it will bring the store into compliance and under forty percent (40%) coverage
if the board accepts it.
Chairman Donnelly gave the Petitioner the option to continue the case in order for them to come up with
another alternative. He further stated if the board were to vote on the current motion and it was denied
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then the Petitioner would have to wait a year before they can come back to the board.
Commissioner Youngquist asked if the Petitioner could advertise at the forty percent (40%) coverage.
It was confirmed by Staff that the Petitioner could keep the graphics they currently have and just reduce it
to cover only forty percent (40%) of the window area.
There was general discussion between the board members regarding the images being signs or not.
Commissioner Beattie stated they should be considered signs even if the Ross logo is removed because it
shows what kind of merchandise is sold in the store. He stated if this is allowed the commission will
begin to get similar request from other tenants in the Village.
Mr. Babowice stated that he is willing to continue the case in order to speak with his client and try to
come up with a new alternative. He stated that the current graphics cost the Petitioner ten thousand dollars
($10,000) to install.
Commissioner Otteman asked if the blacked-out portion of the window can be a different color instead
black. She further suggested that the Petitioner could change the blacked-out bar along the top to match
the blue bar along the bottom to make the window look more uniform.
Ms. Andrade stated that the code doesn’t specify a color that needs to be used; however, colors are
included in the definition of a sign.
Mr. Bice stated that the images don’t change with the season and they depict more of a lifestyle than the
items sold in the store.
Mr. Babowice stated that the Petitioner would have to purchase another graphics package in order to
achieve the forty percent (40%) alternative. He also gave evidence as to how the request qualifies for the
standards for a sign variation.
Mr. Babowice further explained that the inside layout of the building is the only reason they are running
into this issue. They are trying to repurpose an existing building and make it usable for their current
needs. He also stated that the Ross logo can be eliminated from the graphic.
Chairman Donnelly swore in Laurence Freedman who is the attorney representing the owner of the
shopping center, 77 W. Washington Street, Chicago Illinois.
Mr. Freedman stated they are strongly supportive of their tenant’s request. He further explained the owner
is aware of the sign ordinance and urges the commission to work with the Petitioner to come up with
something that is tasteful yet close enough to the ordinance.
Mr. Freedman stated that the owner of the shopping center is against blacking-out the windows because it
will look like there are vacant store fronts.
Mr. Babowice asked the board to specify what would be satisfactory if the alternative option he presented
is also not accepted.
Commissioner Beattie stated that he understands the difficult position the Petitioner is in and stated if the
windows were covered with something that is completely unrelated to the products they sell it would be
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easier to give them the relief they need from the sign code.
Commissioner Youngquist asked why the sign package was allowed to be installed back in 2012.
Ms. Saewert stated that window signs don’t need a permit.
Commissioner Younquist stated that the designer of the sign should have read the code and modified in
order for it to comply. He suggested the Petitioner seek them out and have it fixed for a reduced fee.
Mr. Babowice stated they would like to have the case continued to next month in order to come up with
some different scenarios.
There was general discussion regarding the fact that a variance would still need to be granted in order to
have the individual window portions covered with graphics/black stripe.
Commissioner Otteman made a motion seconded by Commissioner Beattie to continue case PZ-05-15 to
April 2015 Planning and Zoning Commission.
UPON ROLL CALL AYES: Otteman, Beattie, Younquist, Keuter, Donnelly
NAYS: None
The vote to continue the case was approved 5-0.
After hearing one additional case the Commissioner Beattie made a motion seconded by Commissioner
Keuter and the meeting was adjourned.
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Jenna Moder, Administrative Assistant
Community Development
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